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3 f breaking records..............78 years since it has been this cold

The pond froze so fast, when this cold hit, it is sitting at 38F
 
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3 f breaking records..............78 years since it has been this cold

The pond froze so fast, when this cold hit, it is sitting at 38F
Brrrrrrrrrr......

I'd like to buy a thermometer this year to remotely take pond's temp......wanting something reliable, but not to expensive.
 

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Brrrrrrrrrr......

I'd like to buy a thermometer this year to remotely take pond's temp......wanting something reliable, but not to expensive.
I have never bothered to take temp of ice cold freezing water.... Water turns to ice once temps reach freezing, that's why ice forms on top of pond, and water below ice will be above freezing. If there is ice then water will be "ice cold" and as long as ice does not smother whole pond and cut of air, everything will be fine. Not to worry about how cold water is as koi and goldish are cold water fish and do fine under the ice as long as there is running ice cold water to bring fresh oxygen.
 
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cold as hell. everything froze. the pond. the bog. moving water. im f-ed gonna lose the fish
 

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Making homemade cabbage rolls and it's my first time. Seen lots of video and some people use raw hamburger/pork mixed with raw rice and roll up in cabbage and cook with lots of tomato sauce. I think I will do it that way so the fat can make sauce extra tasty. If I cook everything first and roll up into cabbage later I think the flavor won't be as good. Everything in raw except steamed cabbage. Cook slow and long for hours and I got fresh tomatos that cost a arm and a leg to chop up and put over tomato sauce to make sure they don't dry out... What do you think?
Freezing cold again at -34 Celsius
 

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cold as hell. everything froze. the pond. the bog. moving water. im f-ed gonna lose the fish
As long as the ice is not too thick and water still moving all should be ok. Use a cheap cattle trough heater to stop pond from freezing solid. Just to get you through the coldest winter...
 
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As long as the ice is not too thick and water still moving all should be ok. Use a cheap cattle trough heater to stop pond from freezing solid. Just to get you through the coldest winter...
The heater is frozen too. Have a about 4 inche Thick of ice and no moving water.
 
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The heater is frozen too. Have a about 4 inche Thick of ice and no moving water.

the yellow sting holds the heater in place.
 

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the yellow sting holds the heater in place.
My heater is froze in ice in top but water still running from pond to pond. What kind of heater is that? Might I suggest you go get a cheap 1500 watt red cattle trough heater and that will quickly melt hole in the ice.
Were the pumps running and then froze?
 

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@Angel if you can keep a hole in the ice by taking a hot pan of water out there every once in awhile and set the pan on the ice but keep ahold of the handle or tie it to something so it can't sink after the ice melts. Don't break the ice by hitting or chipping at it as the concussion underwater can kill the fish.
 
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The heater is frozen too. Have a about 4 inche Thick of ice and no moving water.
The water doesn't have to be moving for the fish to survive. Water, when it hits 38 F, gets more dense so it sinks. That is, the water, once it hits 38 F, sinks and the colder water rises. That's why ponds don't freeze bottom up. The fish will be at the bottom. Depending on your frost line in NJ, the surrounding earth will keep your pond bottom layer of water above freezing and the fish will be okay. Keeping a hole open allows any toxic gas buildup from forming as the decay process and slowed metabolic process of your fish doesn't stop. It has nothing to do with oxygen addition. Cold water holds far more O2 than warm. Fish kills happen when the ice stays for such a time that the decaying process (which consumes O2) robs the pond of enough O2. Contrary to what most want to believe, an aerator puts minimal O2 into the pond (as it travels up through the water stream) but instead, does it's job by agitating the surface. It is there the O2 process is taking place.

And as noted, in the winter, this is not the reason for an aerator--it's just to keep a hole open. And that said, fish can survive a long time being under the ice. Tipping points occur when the fish load is too much for the water volume/surface area of the pond. As long as your water depth is lower than your state's frost line, the fish should be okay. You don't want the ice to freeze solid. Above ground ponds are more susceptible because of greater exposure to sub freezing temps. In ground takes advantage of the earth's natural heat (typically around 50 F). When the snow cover is on the ice for a long time (and hence the ice cover beneath that), the existing algae struggles with a lack of light (algae gives off O2 even in winter). But, the snow cover also helps insulate and slow the progress of ice buildup.

A pond breather helps in that it can handle up to 15" of snowfall and has a heater built into it for helping a very small pump keep a hole open all winer long. Google it (also, there's threads here to help) and check it out. Probably too late for the moment but you could put one in the first chance you get (when the weather breaks enough so you can melt a hole in the ice either with a cattle trough heater or the boiling water trick; as noted by jw; don't pound/chip/strike the ice as the shock waves can kill your fish).

I know of a pond near me that is only 18" deep (preformed in the ground) and his fish survive the winters. Still, I'd have a pond be at least 24" and 3' is a lot better. My own pond is 44"-48". I have no water moving and use a pond breather now, after initially using an aerator to keep a hole open.

Hope this helps.

Michael
 
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My heater is froze in ice in top but water still running from pond to pond. What kind of heater is that? Might I suggest you go get a cheap 1500 watt red cattle trough heater and that will quickly melt hole in the ice.
Were the pumps running and then froze?
Have a blue heater. And yes it was running then froze.
 
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The water doesn't have to be moving for the fish to survive. Water, when it hits 38 F, gets more dense so it sinks. That's why ponds don't freeze bottom up. The fish will be at the bottom. Depending on your frost line in NJ, the surrounding earth will keep your pond bottom layer of water above freezing and the fish will be okay. Keeping a hole open allows any toxic gas buildup from forming as the decay process and slowed metabolic process of your fish doesn't stop. It has nothing to do with oxygen addition. Cold water holds far more O2 than warm. Fish kills happen when the ice stays for such a time that the decaying process (which consumes O2) robs the pond of enough O2. Contrary to what most want to believe, an aerator puts minimal O2 into the pond (as it travels up through the water stream) but instead, does it's job by agitating the surface. It is there the O2 process is taking place.

And as noted, in the winter, this is not the reason for an aerato--it's just to keep a hole open. And that said, fish can survive a long time being under the ice. Tipping points occur when the fish load is too much for the water volume/surface area of the pond. As long as your water depth is lower than your state's frost line, the fish should be okay. You don't want the ice to freeze solid. Above ground ponds are more susceptible because of greater exposure to sub freezing temps. In ground takes advantage of the earth's natural heat (typically around 50 F). When the snow cover is on the ice for a long time (and hence the ice cover beneath that), the existing algae struggles with a lack of light. But, the snow cover also helps insulate and slow the progress of ice thickness.

A pond heater helps in that it can handle up to 15" of snowfall and has a heater built into it for helping a very small pump keep a hole open all winer long. Google it (also, there's threads here to help) and check it out. Probably too late for the moment but you could put one in the first chance you get (when the weather breaks enough so you can melt a hole in the ice either with a cattle trough heater or the boiling water trick; as noted by jw; don't pound/chip/strike the ice as the shock waves can kill your fish).

I know of a pond near me that is only 18" deep (preformed in the ground) and his fish survive the winters. Still, I'd have a pond be at least 24" and 3' is a lot better. My own pond is 44"-48". I have no water moving and use a pond heater now, after initially using an aerator to keep a hole open.

Hope this helps.

Michael
Aware of all this. 8 years with the pond have.

Had main pump going for bog. Small one for airator. And the trough heater. All going not sure what happened to cause this
 
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Aware of all this. 8 years with the pond have.

Had main pump going for bog. Small one for airator. And the trough heater. All going not sure what happened to cause this
how deep is your pond? Do you have a buildup of rotting vegetation at the bottom? Approximate gallonage? Does your bog feed into your pond? If the bog froze, not a problem. If the pump died, not a problem (as long as my above post holds true re depth, in-ground, non-overstocking, hole open), and if you know all this already, you know if your fish will be okay or not.
 

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