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sissy said:
All the rocks are from this property and I know this was once a cow pasture over 50 years ago and the allowed to just grow wild and I came to the conclusion that cow pies turn into rocks .I still pick up a bucket or 2 a week .Sometimes not small ones .I could make kitchen counter tops .
Ah now you started a run on cow pies.
 

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they were actually from my first pond there is a house a bridge and an out house.Hot out and had to take a break from mowing .coffee time :coffeemug:
 

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About our Landscaper. All through his work he made a point of emphasing that he would "be here for his after the job was complete".

On his crews last work day we really liked how he used moss stone to outline the main flower bed in the front yard so settled on a price of $275 for him to return get the pallet of stone and to outline the two additional front yard beds. "I'll be here next week" he said. Next week no show no call. In the mean time we discovered his crew had not replaced two sprinkler heads as promised plus three others were now malfunctioning. So I call him up and of course it goes straight to voice mail. I wait three days and call again. This time he calls back and we talk about the new work and the sprinkler problems. He tells me he can't get anymore of the moss stone for a week but he will get back with me very soon. No call back last week so I called him Monday. Straight to voice mail and as usual he has nor returned the call. May seem I'm not being patient but wifey called his stone supplier who told her he had six pallets on hand.

We guess his "he would be here for us after the job is complete" was meaningless dibble. When and if he ever calls us back it will be because he desperately needs more work. Well, too late buddy! I have a new irrigation repairman scheduled for next Tuesday and will soon have someone to source the moss stone and outline the additional two beds. Enough is enough, goodbye, so long, have a great life old pal. Someone may feed us a line of bull for awhile but in the end we put that bull out to pasture!

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callingcolleen1 said:
Capewind, just saw in your post last page, that you have hit the "big mother load" of rocks!!! How the heck did those big bolders get there? I really want your big rocks!! No danger of them big rocks ever "walking off"!
Hubby picked them up and put them there with his machine:)
 

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Some contractors get into a mess when they bid low to get jobs and then don't have enough money to meet cash flow so the end up jumping to the next new job to get cash. Some jobs take forever to finish or don't get finished. I expect a few manage to find there way out but mostly it is just the big sucking sound coming to get them.
 
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We figure he has to dedicate his time and resources to the max paying jobs to stay in business. That is good but in the mean time he loses his standing with some customers.
Sorry Lou, but that's bull. You are simply being too kind to this contractor, Big or small job, it makes no difference to us. Repeat clients and word of mouth are where we make our real money. We get to the clients "more or less" in the order the work was scheduled with a few minor exceptions. You could almost say we run off of 3 schedules. The main schedule reflects bigger projects, the next schedule is what we call "filler jobs" (one day or less) and the final is to keep track of dates we are needed by another contractor (we do our own things, but are also a subcontractor, you NEVER forget the other companies that helped you grow) but all three schedules work together. So say you are on the waiting list with your $275 project, even if there are 10 big jobs that came in before you, you get moved up the list, as your little project can be done on a day that another project was finished early in the day, or you would get squeezed in between larger jobs. If your job is an emergency, you get moved right to the top of the list. Note that an emergency is you have a tree ON your house, car, etc, or something as simple as a blown irrigation line with it gushing straight up.

We would never blow off what sounds like a cheap money cold call either, as you never know where it could go. Let me give you an example of a real client, who has similar things going on in his yard, as yours. Cold call in 2009, on a Sunday ... I answer the business line if I am awake, period, as we offer emergency services. These folks had just bought the house, and had no idea what to do with the pond (couldnt figure out how to turn it on). Since hubby has a special interests in ponds, wanted to go check it out that day. First of all, they were expecting to get an answering machine, not a live person ... they were floored that we were willing to come that day. Told them on the phone it would be a $50 service call to come look, and he would get it going IF POSSIBLE. We were there for a good couple of hours. Only charged them the $50, inspected everything, and explained how the system worked, so that THEY could take care of it, themselves ... about a week or two later, they called again. Couldnt figure out how to turn on the irrigation. Same deal. $50 service call, and was there for a couple of hours trying to trouble shoot it (hacker installation and broken) ... Suggested a new system (small profit margin in irrigation installations), but they said they couldnt afford it right now, and asked if there was anything hubby could do to MAKE it work ... bandaids and bubblegum got it running ... didnt hear from them again for awhile, then they called asking if we could refer someone to check out their chimney (of course we knew someone) ... gave them the info and hung up ... I have client history stored in the computer. Since fall of 2009, about every two to three months, they spend anywhere from $1500 to $3500, like clockwork, Just picked up $1800 a few days ago (spring clean up and fix something on the pond that they broke - my newly aquired Grape Hyacinths came from their yard). Oh, and thanks to their referrals, we picked up both of their neighbors as well:) We have several other clients just like them. If it is outside, they call us FIRST. If we dont do that particular item, we tell them someone we trust to call, as for many of our clients, these are second homes, so dont know the whose who game.
 
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HTH said:
Some contractors get into a mess when they bid low to get jobs and then don't have enough money to meet cash flow so the end up jumping to the next new job to get cash. Some jobs take forever to finish or don't get finished. I expect a few manage to find there way out but mostly it is just the big sucking sound coming to get them.
We ran into a similar issue when we built our house. The electrician was actually very good, but he was in a major financial mess (didnt know this til after) ... I had to ride his ass to get him back here to stay on schedule, and ultimately, I fired him, but what he was doing was going to other jobs to make money to cover the materials payments I had already given him. It was really a sad situation. He lost his house and business both ... he and his wife (not young kids, but in their 50s) ended up having to go live with family.
 
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Our initial project was $7,600. Not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things. Add in the upcoming $250 then it's $7,850. Then consider the yearly bush and tree maintenance we "were" going to award him and so on and so forth. Would evidently add up to us being a somewhat steady source of income. As a retired Logistician I know it takes a mere three seconds for a consumer to form an opinion. His good three second impression recently went "puff".

Thanks friends.
 

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Big Lou- sorry you are having problems with your contractor. Our last project is done ( bathroom ) and while there are small issues, we lucked out again with a good crew (2 people) who got the job done and did good work. We have a lot of work to do to finish up the bath, patching holes from old cabinets, painting etc. but are happy to have the big stuff done. They didn't finish till 10pm last night but got a late start and hade to make another trip to the hardware store. I won't ever go to another home improvement show, can't anyhow cause I'm broke!
 

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