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I went goldfish/ shubbies only due to the fact I did not want to worry about the fish, wanted plants, they are pretty, lots of colors with the shubbies and now have a self sufficient pond. I hardly ever need to touch it, shut it down for the winter the fish do just fine. Koi are neat, but big, messy and can be darn expensive and a lot touchier about water condiditons then gf and shubbies.

20 at home, 52 here
 

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Very sorry to hear this again John. Hope you won't give up on the pond. The goldies are just as fun for me. Don't give up on your pond, just stick to the hardier ones. Although Colleen seems to manage w/ her koi. Are you colder where you are John?
 

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John, get a mix of colorful shubunkins, make it a all shubbie pond. They are real hardy, do fine over winter and have some beautiful colors. I have some that are almost all black with deep orange and reds, white and black, blue and mixed colors, on and on.

They seem to grow a little slower then gf, seem to breed a little less then gf. I almost wish I had made my pond all shubbies, but do like my mix of gf and shubbies.

Sorry you are losing your koi.


37 down here, 20 at home..................burr for way south florida

Just looked at my pond, 1/2 frozen the fish are swimming around.
 
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The last three days have been sunny :). Reached a high of 42 today and the extended forecast for next week are day time highs in the low 40's and the night temps in the low 30's. No ice on my pond for over a month all my fish are accounted for and look good.
Good grief, MT, no ice for over a month??? I've had maybe 1 or 2 days with NO ice in the last month. You must not have been a part of that arctic blast they called it. I'm thrilled when 1/3 of my ponds are open! Today, they should go more open than they are right now, sun shining, high near 40. But, as if we didn't expect it, going down to teens next week and highs of 20's, so heaters will be turned back on. Ho hum ....
Sissy, totally agree with your comment cold is ok, just hate the wind. I know now that 20 is just perfectly fine, with no wind. 35 and sun no wind and I actually have to take off my chore coat! Definitely no sweatshirt under it. Get way too hot. But, out in the wind, need it all.
John, I feel your pain! I'm still wondering how many, if any, of my goldfish will be alive come spring. I had so many die last year, late summer/early fall. Thinking the spraying done by plane on the fields surrounding my property was the culprit. But, that doesn't make it any easier to lose them. I want to have fish in that pond, and if goldfish won't live, then I'll put all the gin rin koi in there, and ay babies will for sure be gin rins. But, first we have to see what happens with the goldfish. Nope, it does NOT get any easier, even losing one fish is sad, very sad.
BTW, Dave54 suggested two REALLY good books when I was having all my problems. My son got BOTH of them for me for Christmas. The first one sounds like it's only for goldfish; however, it pertains to koi as well and has tons of health issue sections. And, the best part, it's fun to read. Usually that is the LAST thing I want to read, but this one was great, started reading it when I lost power, read it during the daylight hours. "Fancy Goldfish - A Complete Guide to Care and Collecting" by Dr Erik Johnson and Richard Hess, and the other one is "The Interpet Manual of Koi Health" by Keith Holmes and Tony Pitham. I found this on bacterial gill disease: The gills of fish that have died from bacterial gill disease are red, with patches of rotten tissue." However, there are LOTS of issues when fish are sick that their gills look bad. That's the first place to check a fish, I've learned, for problems. With this any everything other problem, the first course of action is to test the water quality. I'm learning how to do scrapes, give shots, etc. in this book. Good luck with your fish! I hope you figure it out and get things straightened out.
 
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Stay strong John!! All is not lost cause you still have your fat little cute goldfish!! Goldfish were my first love, and I still love them very much as they are so hardy and require less oxygen in winter than the big koi.

If anything ever happened to my two biggest oldest Koi of over twenty years old, I would be frantic with grief and devestated, just the thought of losing them causes me much fear!! I fear what will happen to them when I get old, so no getting old for me!!! Ha ha ha

But John its not your fault, you had a big long power failure that lead to this great mishap. When the bubbler quit the big koi must have run out if oxygen and sucked up too much deadly gases instead. This is common problem in the winter and that is why the koi die first, they simply are bigger and as such, require more ogygen, that is why when your pond runs out of oxygen, the biggest fish die off first, not that they are koi, but that they were the biggest fish in your pond.

The ice is all gone now from my top two ponds, but the bottom pond has just a bit of ice left.... now if only the ice from AROUND the pond where I walk would only melt!! Then it would not be so slippery to walk on!!
 

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Mitch! Tell me it is a bad joke!! Oh thank goodness it is not coming out west!! I was really hoping for a early spring and have my heart set on an early spring!!

Oh woe is you to the east, ... they shall suffer the most from this dreaded cold!! Prepare now!! Pack your bags and head out West!
 

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Sun coming through the fog again. Very still out there,no wind at all. I do like snow but sure would not want that polar blast coming my way. Sorry for you that end up getting it :bye2:
 
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Oh I hate it when I read someones fish have dies...:( I have to get outside today before heading to work and get my bubbler's filters cleaned as I can see it's not bubbling like it should be. There is still a thin layer of ice on my pond and it's going to be in the lower 60's today but go back to 45 tmrw then 25 the next day..after that we are suppose to have a warm up in the mid 40's next week woo hooo. This weather has schizophrenic written all over it this winter!!!
 

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man it was nice outside until the darn wind picked up .Sun is out but the wind is chilly
 

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Three more this morning! :grumble: Eight all together. Maybe four left. These were all two to three years old, so the largest were about 8" or so. Got them all in 2012, hand-picked every one! Didn't lose a single fish last winter, so I figured I was doing it right this time. I just hate to see them die, and not be able to do anything for them. Thank you, everyone, for your concern.
John
 

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so sorry to hear and wish I could help .I know fish are supposed to slow down in the winter but with this weird weather I have added extra oxygen to the bottom of the pond with my fake aerator just a small submerged pump with the hose stuffed inside pvc with holes and an end cap
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HARO said:
Three more this morning! :grumble: Eight all together. Maybe four left. These were all two to three years old, so the largest were about 8" or so. Got them all in 2012, hand-picked every one! Didn't lose a single fish last winter, so I figured I was doing it right this time. I just hate to see them die, and not be able to do anything for them. Thank you, everyone, for your concern.
John
Oh my John. We share your grief. Take care.
 

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