I have never liked unions, but am in one now, and thankful for that, because I am under a contract, and getting cost of living raises, whereas other State employees not union have not had a raise for 5 years or more. BUT, I tend to agree with Haro on this subject. He's talking about working FOR the union, and what a racket it was. He's right, people take advantage of the union, USE it to get things they should NOT get (not including you, Colleen, you deserve what you are getting ...). If you read what he said, it was people wanting to take 7 hours of smoke breaks during an 8 hour work day, people taking advantage are the ones that are awful! A lady working for Children and Family Services called wolf and her union came running. Turns out she was a total pain in the ass to work with, and she caused EVERYONE lots of trouble by accusing them of spying on her, etc., which got her out of the job she was in, stayed at home for over 6 months WITH PAY while they investigated the issues, and then she was placed in another agency. So, if she was really correct, don't you think she would have gone back where she had been? Just saying ... yeah, people sure take advantage of unions, and make the Union workers life hell! I can see both sides of the coin, and glad I am union because of raises. Just hate it when people take advantage of what the union is supposed to do to help the workers. :blueflower: