I hear you. Our son works for a grocery store. Has been there for 4 yrs now. Started in the deli, then deli AND prepared foods, but transferred to the meat department in the fall/early winter. I had asked him a couple years ago about cutters (butchers) as they were advertizing for them and the starting wage was really good ... Minimum requirement was 2 yrs of CULINARY school .. sorry, not worth it to my way of thinking ... so now that he is over there, and all their cutters are retiring, and not getting new cutters in, he actually was asked if he was interested in being a cutter ... they will train him ... for each 6 months of the training program (2 years), he will get $1 raise, on top of his normal $0.50 hr raise each 6 months ... Once he completes their in house program, it is a $6 hr raise! Anyways ... since working in the meat department, he has become quite the meat snob. I know exactly when something is going on special, or how old something is LOL. I will also NEVER again buy the cooked meats (such as fried chicken) from prepared foods department. In this major chain, the fried chicken is made from the ALMOST OUT OF DATE chicken that the public didnt buy...