How are you dealing with Covid-19 (Novel Coronavirus) ?

[Jhn]

Careful bud I am the big bad wolf here don't add your self to the list . i am 6-2" about 240 and it often amazes me when people decide to open there mouths and push others or at least try. I had planed to go to dc and see for myself one of the cites that has had riots and issues to see the mall and i don't know why i want to go because if i was to find spray paint or damage to the wall to the Lincoln memorial i would simply loose it. But i latter found out all the mall has been removed of it's statues what is going on why in no one irate about this .

Haha, You got me beat on weight, I am only 215 but about 6’3” (Might be 6’2” now, think I’ve shrunk as I have aged, but also dropped weight for health reasons as well)and usually have dirt/grease on me with a nice aroma of diesel and hint of gasoline...sandpaper hands so back when you could shake hands most would only shake my hand once.

 

[GBBUDD]

Haha, You got me beat on weight, I am only 215 but about 6’3” (Might be 6’2” now, think I’ve shrunk as I have aged, but also dropped weight for health reasons as well)and usually have dirt/grease on me with a nice aroma of diesel and hint of gasoline...sandpaper hands so back when you could shake hands most would only shake my hand once.

Yeah i hear yeah i use to blow peoples minds when they asked me to hand them a piece of cloth like a towel or a napkin and i would basically spank it flat handed and it would stick to my hand and id hand it to them . the looks i use to get. Now my hands are that of a PUSSY WILLOW " i ever mention how much i hate politically correct" as i don't do to much hands on any more , probably one of the reasons i enjoyed building the pond so much it was hands on dirt and equipment. the looks and my hands came back for a while

 

[Jhn]

Yeah i hear yeah i use to blow peoples minds when they asked me to hand them a piece of cloth like a towel or a napkin and i would basically spank it flat handed and it would stick to my hand and id hand it to them . the looks i use to get. Now my hands are that of a PUSSY WILLOW " i ever mention how much i hate politically correct" as i don't do to much hands on any more , probably one of the reasons i enjoyed building the pond so much it was hands on dirt and equipment. the looks and my hands came back for a while

That’s a good one with the napkins and towels.

Haha,You sound like my dad, he is almost 80 and is about as politically incorrect as it can get. He has no filter, My filter turns off and on when I am on the job site and off it, around a customer and my crew. I am a fourth generation marine contractor, been around that world my whole life. The stuff we used to do and say on the work site 30 plus years ago, would get charges pressed against them today. We are definitely living in the land of the perpetually offended today.

 

[Burd]

I was asked why I don’t take Covid and the mask situation seriously. I said that I do take the virus seriously. I believe there is a virus and that it is dangerous.

At one point, the disease was supposed to have a 5% death rate. The death rate has now been reduced to less than 1/3 of 1% worldwide. The truth is I’m not opposed to masks at all. Much like carrying a firearm, I don’t and won’t shame anyone for deciding to wear one or not. Sort of a “my body, my choice” situation I suppose.

However, when considering the trustworthiness of information coming from our politicians, I’ve been unable to reconcile the fact that 200,000 people protesting in the streets is met with little to no concern, but a bar, restaurant or hair salon with 10 people in it could be disastrous. The idea that a Trump rally of 18,000 people is a significant risk but a group of 20,000 students tearing down statues isn’t, leaves me perplexed.

Further, how could you possibly take anyone seriously who mandates that free citizens stay at home and wear masks in public but also calls for the acceptance of millions of immigrants entering our society illegally with no record of immunizations against more common and deadly diseases every day.

The truth is that our political “leaders,” just like with guns, drugs, our national debt or sex trafficking, have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about and no plan outside of what’s handed to them 6 seconds before they reach the podium.

 

[CometKeith]

I have decided that I’m not going to worry about catching or transmitting covid-19 anymore. You can’t even see the stuff that makes you sick so why is everyone getting so upset about it? I just watched the mini series about Chernobyl and the nuclear disaster at the power plant in Russia. It was a good show but I didn’t understand what all the fuss was about in that one either! To top things off the government made over a hundred thousand people permanently move because of the lame excuse something in the air might kill them in 5 or10 years if they didn’t!

 

[Lisak1]

When you are in public wear a mask and when you with friends and family practice social distancing period

And yet a mere few months, ago Fauci was telling us the masks had no value. Suddenly masks are settled science and only the dummies question them. But hey - that period at the end is quite convincing.

I always wonder why they call it “social” distancing and not “physical” distancing.

 

[CometKeith]

And yet a mere few months, ago Fauci was telling us the masks had no value. Suddenly masks are settled science and only the dummies question them. But hey - that period at the end is quite convincing.

I always wonder why they call it “social” distancing and not “physical” distancing.

Hi Lisa. We have tried to be careful with our construction crews since we were allowed to work as essential workers. One of the first jobs we did when we went back to work was a vacant property and our 4 man crew were the only ones working there. The hvac contractor we use decided to send a two man crew to start to install ductwork without asking me if it was okay. Only after they worked there our foreman told me it was a little crowded and he felt uncomfortable. Long story short..one of the hvac guys felt I’ll and went to get tested while he was working there. He tested positive and needed to quarantine for two weeks after that. I have no doubt that if everyone wasn’t wearing masks including the sick guy a lot more people would have got infected including me because I stopped there on a regular basis too.

 

[Tula]

I agree the mixed message on masks at the beginning of the pandemic contributed to people's distrust and divided opinions on their effectiveness. I personally didn't agree with that information when it first came out and wore scarves when in public.

I don't know for sure why that message was given.....either to save masks for medical personnel or there wasn't enough science to back it up....but it certainly did't help matters. For ME, there is now enough science to back up the claims it's effective in slowing the spread of the virus and I wear one.

 

[zeuspaul]

It's best to go with the current consensus in the scientific community which is to wear a mask. In the beginning there was a reluctance to recommend masks for everyone simply because they needed to prioritize the first line workers. At the time the necessity was less than it is today and now masks are available.

There is still a reluctance to recommend N95 masks because remarkably there is still a shortage and they are only recommending masks but not the medical N95. That doesn't mean that they are as good. Their recommendation is primarily to prevent the spread but N95 is better for personal protection.

I think we are relying too much on public officials. Public officials are generally reluctant to go too far with their recommendations for fear of panicking the public or having them not comply. There is an awful lot of resistance to simply wearing a mask in public.

When they say six feet of distance I hear twelve. When they say face covering and not N95 I hear N95. I wear a well fitting mask with a good rubber seal with two interchangeable filters. When I hear 95% for N95 I use P100. I think 100% is better than 95%. I look a bit like an alien but it is a small price to pay for my safety.

Think for yourself.

We as a nation need to do more judging from our failing results.

And yet a mere few months, ago Fauci was telling us the masks had no value. Suddenly masks are settled science and only the dummies question them. But hey - that period at the end is quite convincing.

I always wonder why they call it “social” distancing and not “physical” distancing.

 

[KDubU]

I think the underlying misunderstanding about the virus is also the fact that there are many people who don’t know anyone with it. If one cannot see it, this leads to questioning the messaging which is natural. The reason for the mandates are not because someone likes them or it’s a power grab or anything of the sort. The issue is twofold, one the virus has been proven that it is highly contagious and that many may have it and experience little to no affects (good for them, bad for others). The second is our healthcare system just cannot support the number of people who would get sick so then it comes down to choices on who receives care and who does not. How and by who will this be done by? It would mean likely deciding some people who have 5-10yrs of life expectancy have less value to society as someone with 10-20. In addition to that they would need to take into consideration whether they smoke, are overweight, diabetic, have cancer (terminal or not), etc. Those that have these would be moved to the back of the line as well as those in certain age groups. This is the nightmare situation that could occur and this is what these mandates are trying to avoid.

Bottom line is it sucks wearing masks. It sucks social distancing. It sucks one’s favorite restaurant is either closed temporarily or permanently. It sucks family members can’t see one another (haven’t seen my 88 year old Mum in a number of months now).

 

[Lisak1]

I don't know for sure why that message was given.

Dr Fauci told us why he originally said masks were no help - we couldn't be trusted not to hoard. Like we're small children who need to be controlled through manipulation. It's insulting. There's still lots of questions about whether the homemade cloth masks don't do more harm than good - they're constantly damp, people can't stop touching them, they get thinner and thinner as you wash them meaning they trap less and less of whatever they might have originally trapped. But every "mandate" says "use a CLOTH face covering".

The science hasn't changed in these past four months. Masks have been around for a long long time - long enough that we shouldn't still have to be asking questions about the efficacy. What about Denmark and the Netherlands - countries where THEIR authorities have said there isn't enough science to prove masks are useful so they aren't going to mandate the use of them. Is that a whole country of people who aren't smart enough to understand "the science"? Again, if someone wants to wear a mask I don't care. But I don't know why this is a new habit people have just picked up, since viruses have been on the planet as long - or longer - than humans have.

I think the underlying misunderstanding about the virus

That's assuming there IS a misunderstanding about the virus. For me the questions are about how we are addressing the virus, not whether it actually exists or whether it can be deadly for a minuscule, well-defined portion of our population. I question how we count the infections and deaths, especially when we are openly told that a Covid death is anyone who dies WITH Covid, not just OF Covid. If that doesn't make you wonder what's going on, then you aren't paying attention. There have been countless reports of mis-counting that have happened throughout the country. Here's one example:

"According to newly released federal data, a 96-bed nursing home in New Jersey has had a staggering 753 COVID-19 deaths among its residents since January.That means that the Dellridge Health & Rehabilitation Center in Paramus has had more deaths caused by the coronavirus than any other nursing home in the country. But it’s not true. The nursing home has recorded just 16 deaths, according to state data and the nursing home itself."

Here's the rest of the article for anyone who's interested.

New federal COVID-19 nursing home data fraught with inaccuracies, overcounts and undercounts

Newly-released federal nursing home COVID-19 case and death numbers in some cases show major discrepancies with other public records, according to analysis by InvestigateTV. One nursing home had hundreds more deaths reported than it had beds in the facility.

www.wmbfnews.com

Other states have reported that no negative results were included in their reporting or every test for a given period came back positive... 100% of them. And yet these numbers are being published and policy decisions are being made based on inept, at best, or fraudulent at worst, data reporting.

Think for yourself.

I agree 100%. But if you come to the "wrong" conclusion, be prepared to be ridiculed and shamed.

 

[GBBUDD]

We are definitely living in the land of the perpetually offended today.

We had those same people around back them we use to call it throwing a tantrum . We let them go ito a corner and have a good cry or fit an when it was over then we'd talk .Today we sit them down and give them a microphone and a computer to shout from the roof tops there Crap. " Makes sence to me NOT" They have just banded together and are playing the race , bigot , sexist and the supremacist B.S to make everyone feel guilty and not speak out against them. I don't care if someone ever came to my job site who was purple hair piercings and polkadotted if the did the job or TRIED to learn didn't create DRAMA i don't care if they were the best OR NOT if they worked hard, i'll take them every time. Someone who was skilled but cause drama all day and was a virus to the site i wanted no part of don't give a rats what color size shape they are.

 

[GBBUDD]

Dr Fauci told us why he originally said masks were no help - we couldn't be trusted not to hoard. Like we're small children who need to be controlled through manipulation. It's insulting. There's still lots of questions about whether the homemade cloth masks don't do more harm than good - they're constantly damp, people can't stop touching them, they get thinner and thinner as you wash them meaning they trap less and less of whatever they might have originally trapped. But every "mandate" says "use a CLOTH face covering".

The science hasn't changed in these past four months. Masks have been around for a long long time - long enough that we shouldn't still have to be asking questions about the efficacy. What about Denmark and the Netherlands - countries where THEIR authorities have said there isn't enough science to prove masks are useful so they aren't going to mandate the use of them. Is that a whole country of people who aren't smart enough to understand "the science"? Again, if someone wants to wear a mask I don't care. But I don't know why this is a new habit people have just picked up, since viruses have been on the planet as long - or longer - than humans have.



That's assuming there IS a misunderstanding about the virus. For me the questions are about how we are addressing the virus, not whether it actually exists or whether it can be deadly for a minuscule, well-defined portion of our population. I question how we count the infections and deaths, especially when we are openly told that a Covid death is anyone who dies WITH Covid, not just OF Covid. If that doesn't make you wonder what's going on, then you aren't paying attention. There have been countless reports of mis-counting that have happened throughout the country. Here's one example:

"According to newly released federal data, a 96-bed nursing home in New Jersey has had a staggering 753 COVID-19 deaths among its residents since January.That means that the Dellridge Health & Rehabilitation Center in Paramus has had more deaths caused by the coronavirus than any other nursing home in the country. But it’s not true. The nursing home has recorded just 16 deaths, according to state data and the nursing home itself."

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I agree 100%. But if you come to the "wrong" conclusion, be prepared to be ridiculed and shamed.

LETS NOT FORGET THE SAME DAY THE MEDIA PUT OUT 6 STATES ALL WITH 322 NEW CASE AND HERES THE BEST PART ALL SIX ALSOHAD 17 DEATHS ALL IN ONE AND THE SAME DAY . TALK TO A BOOK MAKER ASK THEM WHAT THOSE ODDS WOULD PAY

 

[KDubU]

This statement seems a bit at odds with those that have died from COVID. Yes, there are certain individuals that are “weaker” and will not be able to fight the virus as well as others. I think all life is precious as there is only one and if we can help those impacted the greatest, the

“for a minuscule, well-defined portion of our population.”

As for the actual numbers, yes this is confusing however one can also then look at the opposite way. Those who have died from a heart attack over the last four months, did they die of heart failure or did COVID weaken their organs? Many of those were never tested this they could skew the death rate much higher. Those that died from kidney failure in the last four months, were their organs further compromised.

I still think almost 160,000 deaths speak for themselves and that number will likely get to 200,000 in the coming weeks. And to consider we have not truly entered a phase 2 of this virus.

 

[GBBUDD]

This statement seems a bit at odds with those that have died from COVID. Yes, there are certain individuals that are “weaker” and will not be able to fight the virus as well as others. I think all life is precious as there is only one and if we can help those impacted the greatest, the

“for a minuscule, well-defined portion of our population.”

As for the actual numbers, yes this is confusing however one can also then look at the opposite way. Those who have died from a heart attack over the last four months, did they die of heart failure or did COVID weaken their organs? Many of those were never tested this they could skew the death rate much higher. Those that died from kidney failure in the last four months, were their organs further compromised.

I still think almost 160,000 deaths speak for themselves and that number will likely get to 200,000 in the coming weeks. And to consider we have not truly entered a phase 2 of this virus.

After hospital after hospital after blood bank after blood bank has come out and admitted the numbers were grossly inflated, i wish we could say this is as serious as we are left to believe. Mr Cuomo i need 40,000 ventilators he started to get them and didn't need a one. they built new hospitals and brought in medical ships and not one patient. Look at the weather man today IT'S A SNOWADO OR a CYCLONE BOMB making us believe IT IS the worst storm ever. I have talked to the walmart employess the burgerking the depot and ask hows your fellow employees doing and not one said we have lost anyone and only one has said they had a coworker come down with it. I sure as heck don't believe any media today. I believe it is out there but do i think it is the dooms day virus not even close. but unfortunately many do. ask around for your self.