Country Escape's 2nd pond - Goldfish only

[sissy]

houses are just like ponds colleen always something new needs fixed or changed .It never ends NEVER ENDS

 

[addy1]

I put a metal roof on our house in arizona, it was shake shingles, now metal roof that looks like shake (no snow issues there) did not have any issues with the insurance co about the metal roof. We do get horrendous winds there.

 

[CountryEscape]

The old style metal roofs may have pulled up in a high wind, but I can guarantee you that good steel roof is going to far outlast shingles in my winds. A sheet of metal is going to last much longer than a thin piece of asphalt shingle, that is not even attached at the bottom, just from a little strip of tar that hopefully sealed well when it was hot. This time of year, no way are you going to get shingled to seal unless the temps go up to at least 50 or 60 degrees and a bright sunny day. The metal they have now is not only thicker than 30 years ago, it's made so that it snaps together, he was telling me, and no screws are visible, they are all underneath, and he said it's VERY hard to get it off once it's snapped together and screwed down. Bad thing is that type that is made for home, is twice the price of the metal for outbuildings. So, that's telling me I may not be able to afford the metal. I'll also have to find out if there is any tax break still available for metal roof on a home, and if the color I want to use is one of the colors that has the tax break. That may help me decide, too, if I get some of the expense back next year. First I have to wait for the estimate and then see if it's even feasible.

 

[sissy]

funny here they give a tax break if you put metal on barns or on sheds but not on houses .I looked it up after my sister stopped over with her new car .She gets new vehicles like other people change the season wardrobe .This is to replace the vehicle she bought new last year .I don't know what to do with her .but I love her

 

[callingcolleen1]

Yes, I know what you mean about sisters... my older sister is 50 and fell in love with a man and now has a "bun in the oven" and is about five months along won't go see the doctor and says she is going to have baby at home, she is 50 going on 51! Then the guy is freaked out about the baby and wanted her to "get rid of it" cause he has no money, and I am worried about her diet, no milk, no dairy, no meat and not taking pre-natal supplements cause she thinks everything she needs is in a vegetable.... I love her too but she worries me

 

[sissy]

I would also be worried about the baby and her age she would be a at higher risk of something really going wrong and she and baby could loose that battle .

 

[callingcolleen1]

yes, lots of things can go wrong, hoping she will come to her senses soon.

 

[MitchM]

CE, I forget how hot it gets in your area, but a roof with improper venting will really shorten the life of asphalt shingles. They will overheat and curl up, which distorts them and prevents them from shedding water properly.
You should have roof vents on the roof's leeward side. It will help keep the shingles cool.
I put a metal roof on our building here, but my objective was fire prevention plus longevity. My metal roof is the kind with exterior screws but if I had to do it over again I would go with the type that uses hidden clips. The rubber washers on the exterior screws degrade within a few years.
I also built this building using SIPs (Structural Insulated Panels, essentially like an Oreo cookie with styrofoam in between 2 sheets of plywood ) which required strapping for the metal roof to be put down first.
Whatever roofing material you put on your roof, it will really benefit if you design things so it is kept as cool as possible during the hot weather.
Good venting is a must.

Colleen, what the heck is your sister doing having a baby at 50?
That's my age, and I couldn't imagine....

 

[addy1]

My phoenix metal roof was put on with an air gap between the house and the roof, our electric bill went down after it was installed.

We (late hubby and I) put a metal roof on our colorado house too, up there that is mainly what they used, 8000 feet up a lot of snow load. I prefer metal.

 

[sissy]

I have a friend here that does sips houses.sips of america ,Jimmy Farlow ,he is out of Blairs Virginia .He does those geodesic dome homes also .I love dome homes and would love to have one .No sq.ft just round ft .

 

[MitchM]

There's different SIPs material available also. There's the white styrofoam that I used then there's the less flammable green styrofoam type.
The green type isn't available here.

 

[sissy]

He sells both kinds and I know he told me the difference .I think also green did not hold moisture and did not promote mold also .I think he said also it had a greater R value

 

[CountryEscape]

Yes, I feel like in my situation, with all the winds, I'm going to be pushing for the metal. I'm not sure what the insurance company would do if my metal roofing came off in a tornado, for instance. I'm pretty sure they would replace my roof, just not for the price of the metal, rather for the price of the other materials. I will have to double check with them on that. As friend that sells the metal said, you would think they would WANT you to put metal on, since it lasts longer than shingles, but then it can get damaged by hail and large tree branches.
I will definitely have proper ventilation on my new roof. This whole house was built with "cheap" as the main adjective, I'm finding out more and more. And, the former owner probably is who put on the last roof, and they are simply too lazy to do things right. The concrete pieces (areas here and there) poured here are unbelievable. I have a 6" jump on the right hand side of my garage, narrow pad in front of my pad has dropped that much on that side, only 1" on the other end. Just wasn't done properly. Glad my car goes in the middle, only 4" drop for the right hand tires.
Mitch, I had to look up "leeward". I'm confused, though. Seems it is saying leeward is away from the wind, facing the side that gets less wind. I would think I would want more air flowing into the vents, or is it this way to keep the wind and rain out of the vents? If the vents are all the way along the roof ridge (I have a simple gable roof), then the openings would be on both sides, East and West (west and NW is the direction my prevailing winds come from). Only time I get east winds is when something really bad is coming ... like tonight!

 

[callingcolleen1]

Good luck with choosing a good roof CE, don't know anything about roofs but hope the tin roof works out good for you. I think you are right about something bad coming, like the a new "mini ice age" !!

 

[CountryEscape]

Colleen, I had to laugh at your comment about a "tin roof". That's what I always used to call it, until I was corrected by my neighbor that sells STEEL roofing. LOL The old stuff on my old barns is probably steel, too, but very thin compared to the quality of metal that is used these days. And, the new stuff has baked on enamel, which lasts far longer than the old "tin" roofs. I want my house to match the barn, so hoping the maroon color has a tax deduction. Going to be mad if that color doesn't qualify ....