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Sissy I have a big Pond Master 4500 that I use in the spring and summer months. Not sure how much electric it uses, but it does work well. Our electric bill for last month was 150 dollars, (1212 khW) but that was for the pumps, heater, plus the heater in the greenhouse too. (And all the house stuff too)
 
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koiguy1969 said:
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Sure do feel for you guys and your health care difficulties.
Makes me feel pretty fortunate for what we have up here.


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This was sent in an email, true or false, don't know




I am a white, Christian and middle income American and so from the left that qualifies me as a racist. This is worth the read and if this makes me racist and a capitalist pig, well then so be it.

















You responsible, working and former working-retired folks will really be on board with this one................





























What ObamaCare is Really About

I'm a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000 per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are work projects out there for me.

My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.

For me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible, costs $482 per month.

For my girlfriend, the same exact policy, same deductible, costs $1 per month. That's right, $1 per month. I'm not making this up.

Don't believe me? Just go to www.coveredca.gov
http://www.coveredca.gov/ , the ObamaCare website for California and enter the parameters I've mentioned above and see for yourself. By the way, my zip code is 93940. You'll need to enter that.

So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and upper-income wage earners. But there's a lot more to it. Stick with me.

And before I make my next points, I'd like you to think about something:

I live in Monterey County, in Central California. We have a large land mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado Springs or the city of Omaha.

But we do have a large Hispanic population, including a large number of illegal aliens, and to serve this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in Belvedere, Illinois (see Google Earth View). Natividad has state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much more. If you have no insurance, if you've been in a drive-by shooting or have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it's essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is uninsured.

Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32% of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were Hispanic. Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71% listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40 were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers paid for the other 836. And in case you were wondering about the entire population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.

Now consider this:

If I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month. But my girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4 per month. That's right, $4 per month. $48 per year for a zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of $170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).

I mean, it's bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of course I do not, I would never agree to subsidize premium policies. If I have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not want the guy I'm subsidizing to get a better policy, for less that 1% of what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.




Why must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a dollar? And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a month? Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing that the other guy can get for $48. $10,000 of net income is 60 days of full time work as an engineer. $48 is something I could could pay for collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.

Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?

ObamaCare is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That's just the cover story. The real story is that it is a massive, political power grab. Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium policy for $4 a month will vote for anyone but the political party that provides him such a deal? ObamaCare is about enabling, subsizdizing, and expanding the Left's political power base, at taxpayer expense. Why would I vote for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a month? For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare coverage? Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I'm saving?

And think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible, under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more cops, criminal courts and prisons? One thing you can be certain of: At $4 a month, they'll multiply, and multiply, and multiply. And not one of them will vote Republican.

ObamaCare: It's all about political power.
 
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Here in Alberta, we pay nothing. It doesn't matter if it's a broken finger, a chopped off limb, pregnancy, heart attack.
We may have to pay for an ambulance ride, if you have no extra insurance.
Our taxes are higher, but I'm more than willing to pay higher taxes.
There also may be a small user fee here and there. By small, I mean maybe $75.
 

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ok. even tho this is a bit sexist...its still funny.
A man is driving up a steep, narrow mountain road. A woman is driving down the same road. As they pass each other, the woman leans out of the window and yells "PIG!"

The man immediately leans out of his window and replies, "BITCH!"

They each continue on their way, and as the man rounds the next corner, he crashes into a pig in the middle of the road and dies.

If only men would listen.

see ladies, i'm an equal oppurtunity "belittler".....lol
 

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No Obama care forced on us yet so far anyways. We just stuck w/ paying to my hubby's union medical plan offered to retired people. As long as we continue to pay retirement dues which are way cheap we pay $768. per month for both of us. That sounds like a lot to me but what can ya do and think it is better than Obama's? Can choose what doc's and facilities to use. Think if we went the Obama way we would be shocked what we would pay. This could all change if his union at some point drops this kind of coverage. We will need to find out what kind of plan to choose from when we get to the medicare age. Not looking forward to dealing w/ that.
 

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same thing with us JW pay a little out to Ford and keep blue shield blue cross of Michigan .Deductable is 500 dollars and they pay doctors except for 25 dollars and all our dental and eyeglasses .So far this year alone it was just over 1 hundred thousand they paid out for hubby .Only 300 for me .
 

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I only pay 78 dollars a year for my insurance so really can't complain .I moved here because of the tax rate .3 acres and a thousand dollars a year .Auto insurance 2 vehicles around 400 dollars and home owners insurance is just about 300 dollars .But when hubby hits 62 this year we will get a tax break on our home and also on our electric bill .I filed already and I will know exactly how much ,online it tells me taxes on house will go down to 700 dollars a year but I guess I will know for sure soon .
 

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