My pond runs all winter, zone 2/3

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I see those big air pumps in farm ponds around here and it looks like a volcano in the middle of the pond .Yeh here they just raised the electric rates like crazy .I went from a hundred dollars a month to 200 hundred dollars a month for the same amount of electricity and that is not fair to people .I look at 2 months ago and back and have used the just about the same amount and they have since got 2 rate increases .
 

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Yes some people pay lots for electric. My whole house bill for electric, water, sewer, garbage and gas, is all together on one bill, and I run two 1500 watt heaters outside, one in the pond and one fan heater in the greenhouse (on low setting), with the house heated and everything, bill last month was only $225.00. My house is small and that makes it much cheaper too for heat.
Medicine Hat does have the cheapest utitility bills for much of Canada cause we have our own city power plant run on natural gas. Medicine Hat has lots of natural gas and they say we have "all hell" for a basement cause natural gas is everywhere here. The natural gas can be seen bubbling in the river in this one area next to the "bad lands" all summer and winter. At the creek here a block away people tell stories of ice fishing and after they drill hole in ice they can light the hole and get flames from the natural gas that burbs up under the creek bed.
We have a lot of "bad lands" around here were dinosaur fossils can be found, and lots of the hills around here have seams of natural coal layers sticking out everywhere, coal can also be easily found everywhere in the river area. I have lots of woodland buffalo bones in my garden in the front yard from 200 years back when Medicine Hat populated by local Indian tribes. That's how Medicine Hat got it's name, the local Indian medicine man lost his Indian feather headdress in the river. The story is actually quite barbaric and bloody. We have old Indian burial grounds here too....
 

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We are on Danville electric and get our power from them and we are part of the county and that is for a 2440 sq.ft house so guessing heat eats some of it .But thing is i used less electric this month than last month and bill was higher this month after the rate increase .I only have one pump going in the pond and have had only one going for 3 months now and no heater .I don't use my dryer much I like to hang clothes out in fresh air .
 

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Here is our current bill for month...
Electric 112.04
Gas. 73.28
Water. 31.75
Sewer. 30.34
Garbage 15.80
Recycling. 3.50

Total was 266.71 plus GST tax of 9.26

Energy charge (838 kWh @ $0.0858) (30 days) = $80.36. (Plus charges for admin, going green, etc for a total of 112.04)

If that makes any sense.... :)
 

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I don't have gas none here and well water so pay for electric for pump to run ,no sewer /septic tank /garbage well here we have to take it to the dump ourselves so no charge /recycle same .The only thing I pay for is electric here but if they keep raising the rates ,that will have to change .I have been researching wind and sun turbine from a company called dyocore and trying to get enough info to make up my mind .Does it work long term and is it worth 3 thousand dollars installed .It is new on the market as of 2 years ago and just don't want to waste money on something that may not work
 

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I have heard of lots of people going "green" and they report that it pays off in the long run big time. It is well worth checking into that turbine for sure! You can also go green in the pond, some people have windmill in windy areas that pump water in their pond as well as solar pumps too. Down here in the valley where I live, the wind is not constant, just gusty and from many directions, but if I lived up on the hill with windmill would pay off then.
 

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windmills here cost 2 thousand dollars or more .I have been collecting info on the wind sun turbine since I saw it on the DIY network on This New House Show .I like the idea but have yet to find any one here in VA that has one and how successful it is .
 

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Here where I live, you can have the wind turbine, and store the power in deep cycle batteries. On real windy days you can sell the extra power back to the power company, but they will only buy so much power, they have a cap on how much they will buy and what they will pay for it. So the excess power goes back to the grid for free.
 

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I don't want batteries to take care of I just want the one that gives me some electric
 

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Most of the systems that I have seen do give you electric, but work sorta like this. Your wind spins the wind turbine, which in turn makes electricity. The electric powers a set of battery chargers which keep a bank of deep cycle batteries fully charged. The batteries are connected to a power inverter which converts the dc power to AC power. The wind turbine keeps the batteries full on windy days, on days the wind is calm, you draw from the batteries which have stored the extra power for use on calm wind days. When the wind picks up again, the batteries are charged again and the whole cycle starts over. That's the way I have understood most systems to work.

The huge wind farms you see. It's the same concept, but on a much larger scale.
 

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The dyocore ones are sun and wind and have a box mounted to your house that automatically switches you on grid or off grid and since rates go down at night and I have all LED lights and don't seem to use as much electric at night as I do during the day .Rates are higher during daylight hours here .These can be mounter to the house or a pole ,I would want a pole so no harm would come to my roof.We have a few people her with the solar panels on the roof and batteries .Keeping them clean is a head ache here for our one neighbor .HE DOES NOT LIKE THE BATTERIES EITHER Now have fire place going with all the new wood
 

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OK going to play by the pond today and get pictures of my "pre-filter" for all to see. I do not have any filters after the pump. Heater is now turned off to the pond, warm Chinook blew in and warmed things up nice. Bottom pond always freezes harder cause the flow of water is slower into that pond. Also it gets an "ice cap" as always, cause the water level drops in that pond only, cause it keeps the two other top ponds full at all times.

Pictures from Yesterday, forgot to post them cause I have been busy playing with fish tanks all night! :)

The last picture is my favorite.... so calm, so peace full, the trees reflecting in water just right and the two large Koi are resting nice 3 feet down below the water surface.
 

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Very nice shots Colleen! I am one degree warmer than you! I win! (per my backyard weather station) We are always colder than where they pull the temperature from for the weather band.
 

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OK here is what my filters look like, these are the best filters I have ever had that fit before the pump. The cost about 75 dollars and are ridged hard mesh that have three stages, the black inside hard plastic form, then the light blue layer (which also comes out) and then the most outer black ridged thick mesh that forms the outer layer. I will try to find out the name of the thing and ask my pet store guy to order me another as two can be connected together for even more filteration.

I got that pump going that was not running for last two weeks, cause after that heavy snowstorm I had a power outtage at the pond and that hose froze and I could not find filter as there was ice, so I left just the one smaller pump going to top pond. Since running less water and filtration for the last two weeks, the pond showed more growth of green winter algae and water did not look as fresh. Now that the pump is running again, fish are swimming more and water flow is spinning the large clump of Hornwort nicely again. Hornwort grows best is flowing water, and this year I have much more hornwort in the pond than ever before, so I should have lots to trade for things at the pet store.

I cleaned out the filthy bathtub after cleaning the pond filter, and am now going to dip myself in a hot sea salt bath, as recommended by Sissy in the Weather thread! Sounded like a good idea to me! :)
 

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