Why would you not vote for Trump or Clinton be specific.

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Tell me what other country in the world you can just show up in with no money, no plan, several children, unable to speak that countries language and expect to make it. And why should you be able to do it here? Where else can you wave a Mexican flag, other than here, and Mexico?

That is part of what makes the USA the USA.....freedom!
 

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It's a good thing for them to come if they come legally and w/o drugs and hate and wanting to do evil. If we don't check them out we are committing suicide on all who live here including those who come here legally looking for a good way of life. I hope Trump and his staff can help to make this country a safer place for all of us to live.

Freedom is good but freedom to murder, do drugs and steal away benefits that belong to legal citizens is wrong. @Meyer Jordan would you mind if illegals came to your home and moved into your backyard and started using your water, electricity and feasting off your garden, setting up a tent and doing whatever the heck they wanted?
 

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Freedom is good but freedom to murder, do drugs and steal away benefits that belong to legal citizens is wrong.

I don't know of anyone, including you and I, in this country that has "freedom" to do any of these.

would you mind if illegals came to your home and moved into your backyard and started using your water, electricity and feasting off your garden, setting up a tent and doing whatever the heck they wanted?

This seems like a stretch of the imagination to me as Federal, State and local ordinances already prevent what you have described.

Don't get me wrong. I do not espouse illegal entry into this or any other country. I do, however, feel that the current immigration statutes are antiquated and need to be revised and updated. Arbitrary enforcement of the existing statutes can prove to be economically costly as can some newly enacted legislation as experienced in Alabama and Georgia where new immigration laws cost the agricultural industry billions of dollars. Revisions need be enacted that maximize the economic benefits for ALL involved.
 

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Have you seen these people taking over foreclosures or in several instances people where people are on vacation or have there house up for rent and these people move in and use the electric and water and run up the bills and it takes banks and home owners some times a year to get them out .I have it happened to friends of mine .Her dad past away and her mom came to stay with them for awhile and people squatted on her house the month she was gone and that was over a year ago and they went to court 5 times and they just moved out of her destroyed home .All her belongings gone .They were Mexicans and had at least 15 to 20 people living in her home .The courts were so called had there hands tied they said because 8 of the people were children .None of them could speak english but still got a free lawyer and none could prove they were legal citizens and that is all that finally got them out .All her stuff ,all her pictures all of her memories gone .The house is so destroyed that it is not livable .I saw it today was horrified at the conditions of her once beautiful home .I am not sure I can ever get that picture out of my head .I was so mad at our legal system and how it let a SENIOR CITIZEN DOWN .
 

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All I'm saying is that the people that can prove they are decent law abiding people and are willing to fill out paperwork to get into our country and are willing to work for a living can come and live here but if we can't take care of the people who are here already how can we add more to come in from other countries. It sure would be nice if somehow the countries that these people are from could be able to support their own people and not have to leave their homelands. Doesn't there become a limit to how many people we can handle? I have never seen so many homeless people living on the streets of downtown Seattle in tents under freeway bridges and along hillsides along the freeway. It is unbelievable! These people I see do not look like aliens from other countries. They speak English. So what is our problem? Is there just not enough jobs here? Are they just not willing to work? I don't get it!
 

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Tell me what other country in the world you can just show up in with no money, no plan, several children, unable to speakthat countrieslanguage and expect to make it. And why should you be able to do it here? Where else can you wave a Mexican flag, other than here, andMexico?

There is no other country why do you think they come here ?
From were ever they come from Mexico or China or where ever
They come because where they are at it is much worse.

They expect to make it because for many many years that is what they have,been told, get To america where you can have a better life.

And all that is not true anymore
So as I said that policy of come one and all has to go.
You can not have a.policy to call immigrants and then make it years to get legal papers so.you can get.a job or go.to school and learn the language.
Sorry but the way you sound you can only come if.you have money and know our language. And as.you know this country was not built like that.
 
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I don't know. You would need to ask them, but they did support Trump and as such are looking for results.

And the Nation of Islam supported Obama. Not sure what they got out of it either. And BLM supported Hillary. There are always racists on both sides.
 

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There are always racists on both sides.

Yes there are.....too many. But that was not the point of the post. The point being what will be the reactions of the White Supremacists. among others, when it is realized that Trump can/will not keep his campaign promises.
 

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Sorry but the way you sound you can only come if.you have money and know our language. And as.you know this country was not built like that.
This country was built on laws and procedures. Same as any other country, only we no longer enforce many of the laws that made this country great, which is why I believe we need to revitalize those laws. I'm sure I've said before, my wife came to this country as an ESL student, with a visa and a passport. She became a citizen of the United States thru the proper procedures. She's no different than any other immigrant that's came to America, other than. 1, She doesn't insist on speaking her first language. 2, She doesn't fly an Iranian flag here in America. 3, She respects the laws of our land. That's what "immigration" means. What these new "immigrants" are doing is called "squatting", just come take something as if it was yours. Sorry if YOU think that's right but I do not.
 

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The basis for my thinking about the economy starts with this video.
It's a 3 part series, the first 2 parts are the best. At the end, instead of thinking about individuals going bankrupt, think about countries going bankrupt.
Peter Pumkineater (LOL)
 
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“Anyone who believes in indefinite growth in anything physical, on a physically finite planet, is either mad or an economist.”
Kenneth E. Boulding (an economist)

(from the video)

LOL

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“By this means the government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft.”

John Keynes
 

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@peter hillman
I do not think it is right if we/they are criminals or are illagaly here then they should be jailed or exported.
We have laws in place but our law enforcement is undermanned and powerless on some issues.

Our famliy came from Argentina my dad came here first got a.job and a place for us he sent for us a year later.
I was 2.years old back in 1964. We had the,right docmentation.
My dad.work 2 full time jobs for 10 years.
We all got our citizen papers.
Millions of imgrantes have done this this is not some miracle.
My point on this
Over the last 25 or so years our country has turned in to big wusssies or something we no longer have pride, they just want everything given to them and of course we do.
Instead of setting them up and making them get a job and take care them selves, we just keep giving them food and housing year after year
Now there children are doing the same thing and the cycle continues.

So to me we need to get tough and change are policy, and save our nation from a bunch of spoiled useless people.
 
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Over and over I see CNN pundits saying that they have muslim, hispanic. lgbt and homosexual friends that are horrified.
Not once have I heard a CNN pundit say that they have any white blue collar friends.
White blue collar people seem to be the new forgotten minority.

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