Solving the algae mystery

[JohnHuff]

We found if we cycled the filter with the buttermilk, sugar, baking soda, and household ammonia, then did a 100% water change, everything was okay. That seemed too much trouble to me, and too likely to kill fish when folks did not understand the need for the 100% water change before adding fish.

There is an extremely simple solution for this.
Just do the cycling in vitro instead in vivo (so to speak).
To explain further. Just do the cycling with all that stuff in a stock tank. Once you've got your bacteria in the filter, take the filter or media and install it to the pond. That should work.

And don't forget the other article on the strength of the biofilm. According to that article, it take sandblasting to kill the biofilm so you should be able to move the filter/media no problem.
Not sure I'm 100% convinced about the "invincible" biofilm since there needs to be air/water/nutrient exchange for the bacteria to live and if the biofilm is so strong that you can't kill it with chemicals, neither can nutrients cross it. O2 and H2O might be small but N compounds will be bigger than cleaning solutions (such as Cl or H ions).

 

[Dave 54]

Suffice it to say... If you want to "solve" the algae problem, then it requires maintenance and particular ingredients such as described below.

1. Maintain a health pond and practice good pond husbandry, which is...
   • good water flow which involve aeration of some sort from bubblers, waterfalls, fountains, etc
   • particulate and biological filtration, which bogs also help with both of these
   • do not over feed and do not allow too much decay to remain in the pond... a little decay is fine
     
2. Inhibitors such as...
   • UVs to kill the algae spores that are free floating in the water.

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     So there's no sectret to alagae clear ponds at all Charles.
     What I read is pretty much bog standard practice in UK formal koi ponds so there is nothing as such new there .
     However it answers what I had already suspected and thus my question quite nicely.
     But that doesnt take away from your post at all my friend as it was a very informative plus a very interesting read with lots of points to ponder and take onboard
     Others will take from this that good maintenance etc of their system's etc all go to helping keep their ponds clear of algae coupled with all the other factors you listed in your post.
     
     Dave
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[crsublette]

So there's no sectret to alagae clear ponds at all Charles.
What I read is pretty much bog standard practice in UK formal koi ponds so there is nothing as such new there .
However it answers what I had already suspected and thus my question quite nicely.
But that doesnt take away from your post at all my friend as it was a very informative plus a very interesting read with lots of points to ponder and take onboard
Others will take from this that good maintenance etc of their system's etc all go to helping keep their ponds clear of algae coupled with all the other factors you listed in your post.

Dave

Does not necessarily require a bog so it could also involve your buddy's anoxic filter or along with other filtration that does a decent job since maintaining a healthy pond is the point.

 

[Dave 54]

Bog standard is a bit of a british play on words Charles bogs dont come into it e could say its "basic" , it has nothing whatsoever to do with bogs i'm affraid.
Its something we already pactice

Dave

 

[crsublette]

Bog standard is a bit of a british play on words Charles bogs dont come into it e could say its "basic" , it has nothing whatsoever to do with bogs i'm affraid.
Its something we already pactice

Dave

I like it.

Yeah, it is one of those things why I have enjoyed reading the UK forums due to how different folk talk, that it is still english except different way of saying it; grrr, the word describing this escapes me at the moment. Sometimes it takes me a while to figure out what ya'll mean. It is about the closest I will ever get to experiencing international travel, that is by reading the forums from over there.

 

[Dave 54]

I believe however that the American form of english is the purer form it coming over with the founding fathers and your Dictionaries are based on that ours is a trifle more complicated by imports from around the Commonwealth and Erupopean countrys that have sort of found their way into everyday english language and are no longer thought of as foriegn and has found its way into our English Dictionary and thus adopted into the english laguage look at your spelling of nite to our night or light to your lite , fag to us is a ciggerette, in your language slang for a homosexual our slang terms are Queer or Puff which are offensive to say the least and as such "I appologise in advance to any gay members of this forum from both sides of the Atlantic".
Our Colour to your color, Aluminium to your aluminum, the off green colour of the British Army uniform comes from the Indian language .
There are many many more suttle differences and plays on words both slang or otherwise

Dave

 

[morewater]

I wanna get one of them jobs in Japan where you can go over there and learn them how to talk gooder English.

 

[Dave 54]

I wanna get one of them jobs in Japan where you can go over there and learn them how to talk gooder English.

Did you know in Japan they have three dictionaries two for various forms of Japanese language and meanings then a third for any other word be it english or other wise so as not to currupt their own language .

Dave