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[addy1]

Drain down the water level as you try to catch the fish that will help you a lot. Less room to run from you. Make sure anything sharp is gone from the pond so they don't smack into things and hurt themselves during the catch.
I recall a moving thread in here, do a search, they had good ideas for catching the fish.

 

[sissy]

the reason was that I wanted to make sure that I could find the pipe after a few years any foil like that can break down in acidic soil and thats the kind of soil I have clay and acidic .The wire I used was wrapped with a coating too so I sure it would not break down for awhile also .better safe than sorry .The wire was not a thin gage either .Those pipes are going to be underground a long time where I'm concerned so why not go the extra mile .I takes a little extra money and a little extra time ,thats all ,but for piece of mind worth it ,

 

[addy1]

I have hit many pipes not knowing where they were, good idea sissy. Our pond pipes are 4 feet down and in just one area, so did not worry about them this time.
Almost took out our septic system digging the pond, we had no clue where it was located. Luckily I dig slow.

 

[DrDave]

Some folks use a long pillowcase to catch and transfer their Koi. Or you can buy "Koi Socks".

 

[sissy]

well if you hit septic tank would have been really smelly fertilizer addy .Will have to remember about pillow case or koi sock to catch bigger fish as the nets seem to be a little hard to work with and you have to worry about hurting them too and never new they had a koi sock to catch them with .

 

[sissy]

have to film you chasing down fish to catch them shdwdrgn may give us a big laugh and then send it to americas home videos you may win hands down never saw a video of anything ever like that on the show lol

 

[koiguy1969]

Some folks use a long pillowcase to catch and transfer their Koi. Or you can buy "Koi Socks".

i use the net to catch them (never lifting it out of the water), and guide them backwards into an old black body sized pillowcase. as the dark helps calm them for the carry between the ponds.

 

[Shdwdrgn]

Well I got that huge chunk of rock today to form my cave. Suckered my sister into helping, and she repeatedly told me she hates me. That piece must have been at least a couple hundred pounds. Its a cut piece of local red rock, 48" x 18" x 3". No concerns about walking on it, its not gonna break! Anyway, I had the location leveled out already, so we were able to get it into position (and our arms and legs will be thanking us for the next week).

So I'll be layering more pieces on top, with some hanging over the front edge to break up the flatness. I've also been thinking of hanging a couple LED lights underneath the ledge, to light up the water at night. All that can wait, though. The big piece is in place, so now I can finish mounting the outlet box and digging in the water pipes. Maybe I can start trimming up some of the excess liner material as well...

 

[addy1]

With the excess liner, I would dig it a little bigger lol, but that is me. Fold it under in case you change your mind and want to add some size, I don't trim unless it is really in the way and no way to tuck it out of sight, doing that it has saved me some grief a few times.

Love the rock! I did that over my stream, makes a nice walking bridge.

 

[sissy]

addy I was thinking the exact same thing must be ponders mind lol all that liner hanging over what a waste just go a little bigger it's really not that much more digging

 

[Shdwdrgn]

My main reason for trimming up some of it is the matter of trying to pull the liner tight to follow the hole I dug. Around the top edges, it seems to want to pull tight across the curves, and there's no getting it to move right. I will of course be working with folding it more once I go to finalize everything, but I also think that trimming the liner back closer so I don't have 2 feet of excess hanging out will allow the rubber to stretch more and follow the shape closer.

I'm planning on bringing the water level right up even with ground level. To start, I'll place river rocks around the edge of the pond, on top of the liner. Then behind the liner I will build up a small bank of dirt to the height of the rocks and allow the excess liner to hang over the back side of this dirt bank. Finishing off with piling more river rocks on top of everything, I should end up with a rim 4-6 inches higher than the water line, and the edge of the pond will be finished by rocks that are sitting in the water.

I finished about 3/4 of the first leg of the water pipe trench today. Got final measurements and cut & glued the riser tubes. I need to finish the depth on the last bit, and then get the pipes for this last run of electrical so everything can be buried together.

I also had to dig around that sprinkler pipe that I found running under the lower pond. I ran through the different sprinkler zones, but could detect no water running through this pipe. I seem to be finding a lot of unused pipes as I'm digging around. I ran into another when I was digging the first electrical trench - in one spot it was split along one side and full of dirt. Obviously had never been used, so I just cut that one back out of my way. I can't imagine why there are so many extra pipes that seem to go nowhere.

 

[sissy]

your pipe rich lol:lol::yikesu::lol: I like that stone and your idea for it gives the fish some safety from predators .

 

[addy1]

Neat ideas, to get the liner to follow the curves of the pond it is sometimes best to do some folds. I have, with other ponds, attempted to cut the liner to get it to behave, but folds work the best.

 

[sissy]

The thicker the liner and the harder it is to fold also .I saw at that garden center yesterday they have 60 mil pond liner and really heavy rocks to hold it down but the folds look terrible .they stick up and out .

 

[j.w]

Yep w/ my rocks I made a little step around the pond w/ the earth and liner over it and laid rock around that ledge and then folded my liner over the upper ground outward away from pond and then added another layer of rock around the edge so the bottom rocks are in the water and the top ones aren't and then the land around the pond all slopes down so no runoff can get into the pond or under liner