fishin4cars
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On the pergola I understand now, Kind of why I was asking. As you know most plants need lots of sunlight and i was wondering how well the bog would work under a roof. You answered that one, I Like the idea!
On the size rock for the media and discussion on the Big thread, that's why we moved it to a sticky, to get questions and input. This is not a new method but at the same time it seems that more people are trying it and it's a learning curve in the hobby. I'm open minded on this because I can see where this is a questionable change that could go either way, benefit or anaerobic bacteria growth. That's what I would worry about most using the larger stones.
As for my Bog, basically what I have is a water fall that drops into a 600 gallon bare lined pond, all the plants for the most part are floating plants, the muck drops out to the bottom, So each spring and each fall I remove the plants and take a wet-dry vac and suck out the build-up in the bottom. I like the filtering through gravel idea better, but at the time I was trying to add volume to the overall pond and make a place for some of the plants to grow that the Koi wouldn't be able to eat them for more nitrate removal. Simply speaking The water just flows through the roots of water lettuce, parrots feather, snowflake, etc and then returns to the pond.
On the pump to the water falls and filter and to the bog. You could use one larger pump and place valves so as to direct some water in to each system.
No, not a underwater mouse, LOL I had a couple of mice that made a home in the rocks behind where the liner came up behind the water fall, They chewed holes in the wrinkles at the lower side in the corners, causing what started out as a small leak but gradually got worse as the water channeled up through their maze of little tunnels. They chewed through the liner from the back side. lol
No shelves, next pond will not have a shelf above 3 feet, I too have problems with predators, primarily egrets, herons, and Owls, but do have a neighborhood Raccoon that stops by sometimes too. They get on the post and shelves to hunt, next pond will be for Koi, I'll either have no plants in the pond, a upper level pond and or bog for the plants, or I will make a shelf that sits on the bottom and raise each plant up by plastic stands to sit in the pond. Last winter I lost most of my herd and some very nice fish I might add to a stupid Heron, Next pond will have more thought in it to prevent as much as I can of that happening in the future.
Bottom drains, Most fish poop sinks, bottom drains remove it more efficiently than any other method. easier to clean the pond, helps reduce maintenance, and they also add remove the muck out of the system if installed correctly not just move it to another point to break it all down. That being said, I would have to figure out if I was going to run a bog or not, running a bog the bottom drain water would go to the bog, Not running one the bottom drain would go to either a vortex separator or a sieve separator.
On the size rock for the media and discussion on the Big thread, that's why we moved it to a sticky, to get questions and input. This is not a new method but at the same time it seems that more people are trying it and it's a learning curve in the hobby. I'm open minded on this because I can see where this is a questionable change that could go either way, benefit or anaerobic bacteria growth. That's what I would worry about most using the larger stones.
As for my Bog, basically what I have is a water fall that drops into a 600 gallon bare lined pond, all the plants for the most part are floating plants, the muck drops out to the bottom, So each spring and each fall I remove the plants and take a wet-dry vac and suck out the build-up in the bottom. I like the filtering through gravel idea better, but at the time I was trying to add volume to the overall pond and make a place for some of the plants to grow that the Koi wouldn't be able to eat them for more nitrate removal. Simply speaking The water just flows through the roots of water lettuce, parrots feather, snowflake, etc and then returns to the pond.
On the pump to the water falls and filter and to the bog. You could use one larger pump and place valves so as to direct some water in to each system.
No, not a underwater mouse, LOL I had a couple of mice that made a home in the rocks behind where the liner came up behind the water fall, They chewed holes in the wrinkles at the lower side in the corners, causing what started out as a small leak but gradually got worse as the water channeled up through their maze of little tunnels. They chewed through the liner from the back side. lol
No shelves, next pond will not have a shelf above 3 feet, I too have problems with predators, primarily egrets, herons, and Owls, but do have a neighborhood Raccoon that stops by sometimes too. They get on the post and shelves to hunt, next pond will be for Koi, I'll either have no plants in the pond, a upper level pond and or bog for the plants, or I will make a shelf that sits on the bottom and raise each plant up by plastic stands to sit in the pond. Last winter I lost most of my herd and some very nice fish I might add to a stupid Heron, Next pond will have more thought in it to prevent as much as I can of that happening in the future.
Bottom drains, Most fish poop sinks, bottom drains remove it more efficiently than any other method. easier to clean the pond, helps reduce maintenance, and they also add remove the muck out of the system if installed correctly not just move it to another point to break it all down. That being said, I would have to figure out if I was going to run a bog or not, running a bog the bottom drain water would go to the bog, Not running one the bottom drain would go to either a vortex separator or a sieve separator.
