What size pump? or pumps?
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Not in Ohio where we live. My wife and I go to Texas road house and eat for $30 something, without the kids. Now with the kids then it is closer to $100. Which we only go out as a family maybe 8 or so time a year.
As for McDonald's we almost never eat there our kids like Wendy's far more and get the $4 and $5 bags
All that said we don't go out much, all of our kids play sports so we spend a lot of time to and from school, home, and games. We just aren't big on out to eat. However my wife is a really good cook and our kids love her cooking more then most places we go out to eat at.
But I know all that depends on where one lives. We aren't poor, but we do watch out money because we like to save. After all you only have to make as much money as you spend.
But enough of that.
We love the look of the ponds and waterfalls and have read/heard that a pond could be cheaper to maintain than a pool. However Im starting to wonder if we miss read some information, unless they were talking about ponds that don't have waterfalls and jets. Which would make me think more of a mud hole.
We love the look of the ponds and waterfalls and have read/heard that a pond could be cheaper to maintain than a pool. However Im starting to wonder if we miss read some information, unless they were talking about ponds that don't have waterfalls and jets. Which would make me think more of a mud hole.
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It’s way easier than maintaining a pool because youre not trying to achieve the level of sanitation and cleanliness that you would with a pool.
And a pond—even a big one with waterfalls—can be very cheap to operate when designed properly. But what you’re envisioning requires lifting a lot of water a long way. That’s more expensive.
And a pond—even a big one with waterfalls—can be very cheap to operate when designed properly. But what you’re envisioning requires lifting a lot of water a long way. That’s more expensive.
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What’s your kWh cost?
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The amount it will cost to create the waterfall you want has nothing to do with the size of the pond. It's all about how tall the falls are, how wide the spillways are, and how much water you want going over those spillways to look the way you want them to look.
You could build air lift pumps that turn over 40,000 GPH for the a couple dollars/month. But you'll get no waterfall. Or you can pump 20,000 GPH to 8' high and 100' away and have a thunderous waterfall that costs a small fortune to run.
All that said, 3-4' is probably not going to break the bank in terms of what it will cost to create what you want. Especially at $0.075/kwh. That has to be one of the cheapest electric rates in the country. Even less than I pay out here in the PNW with all our hydro.
If you really want to know what it will cost, though, post a pump or two here that you're thinking about buying. We can look at the curve and tell you with a lot of accuracy how much it will cost you to use it on your pond.
Ok well I have a mostly flat backyard that does slop off a bit to the west.
There for I was looking at digging out the pond and placing all the dirt on the east side.
Which is where I would place the bog.
Then on the west side have a small stream or falls that drops off in to a negative edge
So Bog - 3 foot Waterfall - Pond - Stream/Small falls - Small pool - Negative Edge
There for I guess the life would be out of the storage area below the negative Edge and up across to the Bog which would be 3 to 4 feet above the pond.
There for I was looking at digging out the pond and placing all the dirt on the east side.
Which is where I would place the bog.
Then on the west side have a small stream or falls that drops off in to a negative edge
So Bog - 3 foot Waterfall - Pond - Stream/Small falls - Small pool - Negative Edge
There for I guess the life would be out of the storage area below the negative Edge and up across to the Bog which would be 3 to 4 feet above the pond.
The ultimate design imo at least here in New England is bog to the west stream starts at the west has the wind pushing in the same direction toward the negative edge . But my pond is exactly the reverses after it grew then grew again and grew again and any original design was long gone.
The jets push to the west but the garage and trees and I'm ina valley stops any strong westerly winds
The jets push to the west but the garage and trees and I'm ina valley stops any strong westerly winds
Looks very nice. Going to be a life changer.
The only comment I'd have is on the stream. Keep in mind that is a prime hunting ground for heron and other predetors. A narrow, shallow , long stream is a possible death trap for your fish. High sides, a wider stream and deep waters can help but those birds are smart and patient.
The only comment I'd have is on the stream. Keep in mind that is a prime hunting ground for heron and other predetors. A narrow, shallow , long stream is a possible death trap for your fish. High sides, a wider stream and deep waters can help but those birds are smart and patient.