Trying to educate myself on best pond setup has made me more confused

[mrsclem]

What is the material and thickness of the liner?

 

[Fruit loop]

I think it's 14.5 I've attached a pic.

 

[mrsclem]

Looks like its pic- not the best choice. Epdm is much better, 45 mil is the usual thickness. Any chance you can return and upgrade it? Big box stores don't usually carry epdm

 

[Fruit loop]

I'm sure we could. I guess I should research edpm versus what we got.

Does it last longer or something?

This liner was $120 bucks and I croaked! I had no idea plastic with maybe a little rubber could be so expensive.

 

[Fruit loop]

Alright....I just read a thread in here on it.
Uh...I guess I'll start looking for another liner. In my defense, there is no sun or plant life that can grow anywhere around my pond. Does that make a difference?

 

[Dimelius]

I'm sure we could. I guess I should research edpm versus what we got.

Does it last longer or something?

This liner was $120 bucks and I croaked! I had no idea plastic with maybe a little rubber could be so expensive.

EPDM is almost forever...

Nice work! let's keep going eh eh

About liner i pass on it, coz i'm not enough pro.

 

[mrsclem]

With no exposure to sun, it could last longer but if you can i would go with a better liner. Its the most important part of a pond.

 

[Fruit loop]

Yeah. I can see what you're saying, with our pond being so close to the house it's got to be right.

The rest of this story is we went to a specialized pond store this weekend and the guy there said that liners (like everything else) have tripled in price since 2020 he quoted us like $450.

I understand now that it was probably for an epdm liner. So I bought the one at Lowes not realizing there was a difference.

At those prices...I'm thinking about doing concrete and pond paint again. Instead of a liner.

 

[combatwombat]

If no rocks in pond, no fish, and no plants, then PVC liner is no problem. When it fails, replace it. Easy. Add any of those other things, and I'd be looking into something with more longevity like EPDM or RPE.

 

[brokensword]

thing is, IF the pvc liner DOES fail, I wouldn't want to be the one having to dig up all them rocks and whatnot and then re-lining it, sooooooo, my vote is exchange it. And there should be some better prices out there--don't accept one salesman's word that liners have doubled in price. Think I paid $1100 for hdrpe, 40x30' back in 2019. And HDRPE is cheaper, lighter, and tougher than epdm. Jus' sayin'

 

[Fruit loop]

If no rocks in pond, no fish, and no plants, then PVC liner is no problem. When it fails, replace it. Easy. Add any of those other things, and I'd be looking into something with more longevity like EPDM or RPE.

And no water! Ha!!

 

[combatwombat]

And no water! Ha!!

Haha.Most likely place for failure will be around water line, so unlikely to drain your whole pond.

 

[mrsclem]

Check online. I just checked Webb's water garden. 15x20 45mil Epdm- $245.

 

[Fruit loop]

Wow! That's much better than what that guy quoted me. Hmm... maybe I won't do concrete, render and pond paint. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Fruit loop]

thing is, IF the pvc liner DOES fail, I wouldn't want to be the one having to dig up all them rocks and whatnot and then re-lining it, sooooooo, my vote is exchange it. And there should be some better prices out there--don't accept one salesman's word that liners have doubled in price. Think I paid $1100 for hdrpe, 40x30' back in 2019. And HDRPE is cheaper, lighter, and tougher than epdm. Jus' sayin'

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Now that's a pond! Do you have pictures of it on this forum?