This is disturbing for security concerns.

[MitchM]

It's certainly can be unnerving to find someone sneaking around in your back yard. Years ago I learned the value of motion lights, and any place I live now I make sure I have good coverage of bright floodlights hooked up to motion sensors. They not only alert us as to when someone or something is moving around in our yard, they also make it easier to do things out in the yard at night. There is no perfect security system, but motion lights in combination with plenty of obvious surveillance cameras is one of the best first line of deterrents I think you can have. For locks and alarms to be effective it means you probably already have someone in your yard or home trying to break into your house.

We had someone drive into our yard at the beginning of hunting season at about 2:30 in the morning.
They had to unchain 2 cattle gates before entering our yard.
What the heck did they think they were doing?
I think once they saw the infrared camera lights, they got the heck outta Dodge.

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[DoDad]

Yeah but if use it outside your home things get hairy legal wise.

That's is why I have a CC permit.

 

[Smaug]

That's is why I have a CC permit.

Which will not save you in a court of law if you use it in a situation that could have been avoided.

 

[Smaug]

Given recent events, a reasonable person would think that guns cause more problems then they solve.

All recent events have shown is that we need to enforce the laws that are already on the books. Do that and reopen the insane asylums !

 

[Marshall]

We had someone drive into our yard at the beginning of hunting season at about 2:30 in the morning.
They had to unchain 2 cattle gates before entering our yard.
What the heck did they think they were doing?
I think once they saw the infrared camera lights, they got the heck outta Dodge.

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Now that is weird. I would have given them a red laser dot light and a single warning report.

 

[MitchM]

Which will not save you in a court of law if you use it in a situation that could have been avoided.

I would love to get into a discussion about guns, but I'm afraid it would result in someone (not thinking of anyone in particular) getting banned.

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[mgmine]

As has been said many times guns are not the problem. It's the people that have the guns that are the problem.

 

[MitchM]

Right, but there are no controls in place to restrict someone from owning a gun.
Private sales and gun shows throw any restrictions out the window.

 

[Mike in Vermont]

I would love to get into a discussion about guns, but I'm afraid it would result in someone (not thinking of anyone in particular) getting banned.

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I was going to join that last debate. By the time I got to age 2, I realized many of us have strong, opposite views, and refrained from sharing mine. I don't think any kind of gun discussion thread here, would end well.

 

[addy1]

In the great people's republic of MD things would be hairy no matter where you did it!

No kidding way different than az attitude to guns

 

[addy1]

I would love to get into a discussion about guns, but I'm afraid it would result in someone (not thinking of anyone in particular) getting banned.

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Like politics and religion, best to keep out of a pond forum

 

[MitchM]

One can always hope.
I like the mechanical aspects of a gun, but the emotional side that controls the use of one complicates the topic.
Too bad.

 

[Smaug]

Right, but there are no controls in place to restrict someone from owning a gun.
Private sales and gun shows throw any restrictions out the window.

Depends on the state. In pa long guns can be sold person to person with no restrictions. Handguns or other weapons such as "stamped" weapons must be transferred through a dealer. Gun show sales by dealers require an instant backround check for all weapons. You are also incorrect in your belief there are no restrictions to someone owning a weapon. There are many things that woukd keep you from legally owning a weapon. Criminal tresspass,domestic assault, any felony and even some misdemeanors. My little area are some of the most heavily armed buggers around,funny how no one gets shot.

 

[Smaug]

Like politics and religion, best to keep out of a pond forum

general chat means just that. Would think that any topic that doesn't get disrespectful would be acceptable.

 

[MitchM]

If unregulated sales are allowed in one state, then regulations in any other state are meaningless.

It's too bad that the topic of guns is avoided by so many people.
The reluctance towards discussion will only allow the "evil doers" to continue unabated.
That has and will lead to disastrous consequences.