Oh man you guys are inciting my rage. I am a loss prevention executive for a large retailer. Too low on the ladder to make any rules, but high enough up to get screwed by all of them. This year a lot of retailers are opening at 8PM on Thanksgiving. I usually travel from MI to IL to spend the day at a large extended family party. This year it will be more time driving there and back then enjoying the day. Mom is not happy!