oh well what a couple of days ive had. i had 2 young fish from last years babies in a separate tank all year and i finally decided they looked big enough to go into the main pond with the adult fish, but when i actually put them in they didnt look that big anymore !! infact they looked quite tiny, well they had body length of about 1 inch not including tail, but my main concern was my 14 inch orfe, i was very panicky lol. they kept getting brave and swimming out into the center of the pond and i was nearly having a heart attack. but 48 hours later and they are still there the big orfe itsnt paying any intrest to them so looks like they are going to be fine. yey