I’m hopefull the rock wall I put up, cats, and activity will keep snakes out of my pond. They have plenty of natural water ways near me, they can go there! But then again, it would keep my numbers down... this years baby boom was a lot more than I expected. I’ll have to cull most of them and give/ sell/ other form of removal, most of the babies, but I think what I’ll end up doing is getting rid of all but my white male, the prettiest of the gold, and switching to mostly shubinkin.