
the pipes are both dormant and were clogged. One i didnt know existed until i lifted up the old brinks on the patio and discoverd and old drain underneath. the one on the right was the old gutter drain back when i had a three story patio bumpout that no longer there....now just a deck. the roof gutter is running behind the picture so no water will enter the pond except rain.
Those cast iron pipes are gone now... i cut them 2 feet below but they still would not drain so i dug deeper and yanked out the trap and the line to storm drain ....now its unclogged! and i married up some pvc and made a make shift French drain that will be for any excess water from the gravel under the concrete slab for the pond. That was today's chore..now for some advil and beer.