New member - help! fish kill!

Ruben Miranda

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Hello

Clone Wrote:
No the gills on the dead fish look black. No bloody red.
Well it will be better to get a look at the gills of a live one if it is at all possible.
By netting or getting in and looking.
The blue tint in the water is that additive you added, the green would be a algea bloom.
At the moment I would leave the algea grow as it is consuming the ammo or nitrites and nitrates if this is what is happening and something killed the beneficial bacteria and the pond is recycling.
The Algea although it looks ugly will not kill your fish and with those fountains going I doubt the algae would suck up all that 02.
I would also say that if it was a 02 problem the fish would be up at the top sucking in water and air.
When it is a Ammo prob or other they seem to be very slow moving there gills very hard, or they are very still at the bottom moving there gills very hard.
At least that has been my experience,

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did any of the deads have fuzzy white fungus in their gills or just the black....black usually means either their gills were burned really bad from ammonia to the point of no return or it is a sign of bacterial gill disease....sounds like an 1/8 acre would be a little hard , and expensive, to treat with something like maracyn....and sometimes the blackish-grey splotches are where the gills are trying to get regenerated to a working level again and that section is badly scarred, but they are having trouble regenerating, as there is too much damage....the effect is kinda like an asthmatic having an attack with a rag stuck in their mouth....bgd is generally fatal as you are finding out....do any of the fish have any ulcer-ish looking places on their bodies???wondering if the black gills could be relative to any signs of a secondary infection like aeromonas or pseudomonas.....or....do any of the fish have red streaking on their bodies???....aero and pseudos will affect any number of places in your fish' bodies....they will cause ulcers and streaking in fins and on the body, dropsy aka "pinecone disease",exopthalmus aka, "popeye", hemorrhagic septicemia aka "streaking", abdominal fluid retention, kidney failure and yes- bgd as well..btw...did any of them have algae on their black gills????.Billy
 
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Dead fish have stopped appearing since I got 3 aerators running on 6/2. I got my pond test kit in. Here are the results:
PH 8.2
Ammonia 0.50
Nitrite 0.25
Phosphate 0.50
DO 13% (I think this is wrong, I don't think I did the test right).
 

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ph is the only good thing .Pdz horse stall refresher is zeolite and helps with ammonia .Tractor supply carries it ,.I over filter the water and get the higher number down .I use quilt batting and filters to try and trap as much as I can before it goes back in the pond .With all the rain we have had it does not help .What does your house water test at before you put more water in check it and I even have tested rain water I collect .You never know
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I try to keep the ammonia number to zero, the PH is good for the size of your pond. It seems you just stirred up a lot of sentiment when you cleaned it up and a couple of the fish couldn't take the chemical imbalance in the beginning.

The amount of rain all over the Midwest and the Northeast I would think it would only help cycle the water, we had four inches last Friday and two more this past Monday. I had to drain my pond of the extra water, not sure if you had to pump any water out at your place.
 
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I dont use tap water for the pond. It holds 250,000 gallons. I fill it with rain water from the sky and my cistern (roof drains). I think the algae is coming from my cistern. I filled my small swimming pool with it and the water was green. I'm gonna clean out the cistern and kill the algae before I use it to fill my pond again. I wish I could filter the water, because the pond is so big, I couldnt keep up with cleaning the filter. Cleaning the pond with a backhoe, I think I ripped the clay liner, because it leaks about 1"/week if we have no rain. Only twice in 12 years, have I opened up the exit pipe to drain the pond down because it was too high. Are those pond clarifying balls I see on TSC worth it?
 

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I know here the farms use those bio spheres and they get them at northern tool.com .It seems to help them .
 
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Had another small fish kill over the last week. Its finally stopped. I've been thinking about adding water hyacinth. Would this be good fix for the nutrients?
 

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grasses or sedges eat up more nutrients than them .I trim the roots every couple of weeks so they don't get out of hand
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