Making this harder than it has to be
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koikeepr said:
I usually just email them to myself. The email app scales them down for web use. It's a quick cheat.
It depends on which email program you use. I use gmail, as an example, and it doesn't do that. It tries to swallow the whole picture size if it can.
My wife and I laid a 50x80 45 mill firestone liner by ourselves. It weighed 2000 lbs. But the way it is fan folded and rolled it wasn't hard just don't do it when it's hot out the liner gets very hot. Our kids helped cut the edge. The sides are 5.5 feet straight up but as we filled it we just kept going around pulling the sides tight
Look under photos my new catfish pond
Look under photos my new catfish pond
wow, riverbottom, are you building a pond or a lake? LOL!
Yes, you let the liner sit in the sun for a bit and it softens up and becomes easy to work with. And, yep, working in the sun on a hot liner is insane. I was sweating bullets while standing on the liner and burning my feet!
Yes, you let the liner sit in the sun for a bit and it softens up and becomes easy to work with. And, yep, working in the sun on a hot liner is insane. I was sweating bullets while standing on the liner and burning my feet!
Riverbottom said:
Holly Cow!! I feel like a wimp now,.......that is some pond,....and I must admit the liner looks fine in those pics. WOW If I send you a plane ticket will you come to Missouri and help?? Beautiful pics,...I'm inspired!
There you go JustMe! Change your mind about liner?
Lots to consider,....another question,...For a large pond, would it be more economical to have a large external pump? I have always had my pumps at the bottom of the pond,.and was under the impression it was better to push the water out of the pond than pull it out,...any suggestions?
As long as the pump is below the waterline you are pushing the water.
I have a 4500 gph external pump hooked up to a bottom drain and skimmer the pump is small for the size of the pond but it's working great now. Pump goes to a 350 gal tank with 100 feet of 3 inch perforated drain line with a silt sock over it then going into a 50 gal fines filter with outdoor batting in it.
I have a 4500 gph external pump hooked up to a bottom drain and skimmer the pump is small for the size of the pond but it's working great now. Pump goes to a 350 gal tank with 100 feet of 3 inch perforated drain line with a silt sock over it then going into a 50 gal fines filter with outdoor batting in it.
Riverbottom said:
Thanks,...do you have any idea what the electrical costs are for your pump compared to an internal pump,..or does really just depend on the pump? I'm asking because I have a friend who swears her new pond (1500gal) is costing her $200/mo in electricity,..mine have never cost that much!
About $40 month
Thanks Riverbottom,...that's about what mine usually run, even with lights.
I'm looking at some bottom drains,...where do you put your pump with one of those?
I was actually thinking about building a depressed square in the bottom of the concrete, plumping the PVC through that back to the skippy type filter and I could place the pump in the depressed area and cover it with a piece of plastic egg crate stuff (like the fluorescent light diffusers) to keep all the big stuff out. Kind of a large grate at the bottom of the pond. That way I can always get to it if I need to. If I go with an actual bottom drain, I'm not understanding where I would place a submersible pump?
Thanks so much for the advice all. The contractor comes wednesday,...if he can pour the concrete for the price he's guessing (a friend of a friend) then concrete it will be.
I'm looking at some bottom drains,...where do you put your pump with one of those?
I was actually thinking about building a depressed square in the bottom of the concrete, plumping the PVC through that back to the skippy type filter and I could place the pump in the depressed area and cover it with a piece of plastic egg crate stuff (like the fluorescent light diffusers) to keep all the big stuff out. Kind of a large grate at the bottom of the pond. That way I can always get to it if I need to. If I go with an actual bottom drain, I'm not understanding where I would place a submersible pump?
Thanks so much for the advice all. The contractor comes wednesday,...if he can pour the concrete for the price he's guessing (a friend of a friend) then concrete it will be.
JustMe, if you're going to have a really large pond, you need an external pump. It will be way more cost effective in the long run in terms of wattage and you get more power.
If you're going with a BD, then you would have the BD pull into your big filter and then your pump behind the filter.
If you're going with a BD, then you would have the BD pull into your big filter and then your pump behind the filter.
I'm confused,...is the bottom drain a pump?,...or is it just an opening through the concrete to the PVC pipe, which needs to connect to a pump to move the water out of my pond (up hill) and to the filter?
Actually,..the more I think about it,..an external pumps sounds much easier if it will work ok and not cost me $200/mo to run.
Actually,..the more I think about it,..an external pumps sounds much easier if it will work ok and not cost me $200/mo to run.