Really? I'd say that is probably near useless. What actually filters all the fish poop and dead algae out of the pond?
A pond with barely over 11 gallons per fish really needs a decent pump and filter. I stock my pond at no less than 50 gallons per fish.dburden_02 said:I don't know. It's aggravating.
Yesterday I spent 3 full hours talking with a local pond owner on site where I could ask questions, see the pond, measure stuff, understand what goals the owner was after. 3 hours, plus about 5 hours afterward designing a solution, and many email exchanges. Not everyone wants to spend that amount of time. Lot's of people posting in forums want to give very little info and get short answers. Obviously a short answer isn't really going to change anything but you can't force people to give lots of details if they don't want to.dieselplower said:Come on Waterbug... We both know that with that high of a stocking level and no mechanical filtration, the pond is filling up with terds and the dead algae that is being killed by the uv. These terds and dead alga are feeding the new algae. What do you mean "should be ok"? Ok how?
they r mostly under 4 inches all cichlids in that tank i have both a lrg canister filter and an overflow filter on it lots of them are fry that have started to grow up and i dont know what to do with them but i know the waters good or they wouldnt be having babiesdieselplower said:Wow that's darn near fish abuse. I hope they are very small.
well im pretty sure the dying algae is causing the oxygen dep. not the algaecidedieselplower said:Here are some links showing it can cause an oxygen crash.
http://www.pondalgaesolutions.com/articles/algaecide-safety.html
http://www.graystonecreations.com/how-to-control-algae.shtml
http://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatfishblog/2010/08/18/pond-algaecides-usage-and-precautions/
Holy heavens, give me a break... The algaecide kills the algae, which in turn depletes the oxygen. Do we really have to split hairs over it? I was just trying to explain to the guy why his fish would die.davepratt said:well im pretty sure the dying algae is causing the oxygen dep. not the algaecide
He stated that he has been using a UV but it isn't working. You come in and say a UV should be 100% effective. Obviously, it is not. So now what? I'm saying that I believe there is so much "food" in the water for the algae that even if the sterilizer is doing its job, the algae is outpacing it. That floating fountain doesn't have a real filter, as far as I know. 10 fish worth of poop and all the dead algae remaining in the pond is plenty of food to keel the algae going strong. That is why I believe the water stays green.Waterbug said:Yesterday I spent 3 full hours talking with a local pond owner on site where I could ask questions, see the pond, measure stuff, understand what goals the owner was after. 3 hours, plus about 5 hours afterward designing a solution, and many email exchanges. Not everyone wants to spend that amount of time. Lot's of people posting in forums want to give very little info and get short answers. Obviously a short answer isn't really going to change anything but you can't force people to give lots of details if they don't want to.
It didn't sound to me like the poster was asking about how to keep fish alive. I thought, but could be wrong, they didn't like the green water. I answered that already. If they do that the green will be gone as desired and the pond will be fine.
If you're concerned about the fish then that's between you and the poster. I don't have a horse in that race.
While it is very possible that the water was "good" when the fish had babies, I am hoping that you realize that the quality of water is likely to have changed since adding such a load to the tank. I'm not saying it is sure to be bad, but it is much more likely now. Do you have a test kit? It is important to keep ammonia, nurtures, and nitrates low if you want these young fish to thrive. Or be good fooddavepratt said:they r mostly under 4 inches all cichlids in that tank i have both a lrg canister filter and an overflow filter on it lots of them are fry that have started to grow up and i dont know what to do with them but i know the waters good or they wouldnt be having babies
Thanks for the great post. Do you have any helpful thoughts on this?Mucky_Waters said:Maybe the OP shoulthik government assistance with their green water.....
Oh Wait! your government is shut down..... never mind :dunno:
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