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Its been around for quit a while and was at first kept quite about , there is an arguement as to where it first started out either Isreal or Japan over time its continued to mutate and there are lesser varients of this virus however if caught you must inform your fisheries department just as we have to here in the UK.
Then you either keep the survivors or kill them off or kept!!!!.... but if kept they would have to be kept in permanant QT with no new koi added ever because the survivors are also carriers of the virus , you would even have to use seperate equipment .
it would also mean the scrapping of the old pond lest it has had contact with the virus which it already has and everything must either be cleaned thouroughly and then dipped , puting the pond back together nuking the liner , then leaving the pond fallow for 6 months .as our health official found out when his koi fell foul of it [they had bought no koi in 10 years ].............Frightening Yes ?

Then think on this bit of information because its even more frightening why ? ......... because......... 10 years ago our entire club used the same dealership who we had known and trusted [they were KHV aware] but it somehow even found a way past their rigurous Heat ramping and QT proceedures and precautions :(

Dave

Dave, an important correction is needed here.
None of the Carp Herpes Virus (Cyhv1m Cyhv2, or Cyhv3) are reportable diseases in the U.S.
There is no requirement of reporting ANY outbreak, whether at a hobbyist level or at a commercial hatchery level.
 
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Dave, an important correction is needed here.
None of the Carp Herpes Virus (Cyhv1m Cyhv2, or Cyhv3) are reportable diseases in the U.S.
There is no requirement of reporting ANY outbreak, whether at a hobbyist level or at a commercial hatchery level.
How strange Meyer I've read of whole lakes of carp falling foul to this in the US, it affected the anglig trade in the UK as well as ornamental fish farms it was after these outbreaks that the Government of the UK made it reportable virus to Defra ,
Thanx for the correction my friend I asumed the US had followed suite

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This is likely based on the accepted data that most of the freshwater ornamental fish sold in the U.S. are imported, so the economic value is very low. Add to this the fact If Carp were raised in the U.S. as a food source as it is in many countries, the rules would be quite different as the economic impact would be much greater.
 
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This is likely based on the accepted data that most of the freshwater ornamental fish sold in the U.S. are imported, so the economic value is very low. Add to this the fact If Carp were raised in the U.S. as a food source as it is in many countries, the rules would be quite different as the economic impact would be much greater.

You yourself know that this virus can take upwards of 80% of a lake out , all it takes is for someone to put one koi carrying the CYHV3 KHV virus [remember its a sleeper] and that is a cash crop gone to the owner of the fishery affected is it not ?
As such they should make it a reportable virus to your fisheries dept

Dave

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You yourself know that this virus can take upwards of 80% of a lake out , all it takes is for someone to put one koi carrying the CYHV3 KHV virus [remember its a sleeper] and that is a cash crop gone to the owner of the fishery affected is it not ?
As such they should make it a reportable virus to your fisheries dept

Dave

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Very true Dave, but for the fact that this virus only affects Cyprinus carpio (common carp). In the United States, this is a fish with practically no economic value. If it is in a lake or pond it is considered either a nuisance or invasive specie depending on the individual State, so anything that would eliminate it or reduce its numbers would not be considered a negative but a positive. Cyprinus carpio are only raised in the United States as ornamental fish....Koi. The chances are very remote that an infected Koi would be released into one of these hatcheries' rearing ponds. Their risk is in the lone imported collector Koi that may carry the latent virus.
 

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