Curious about your pumps!

[Meyer Jordan]

I just looked at the laguna maxflo 4280 gph. I actually looked at them last night too. I found it for $259 on amazon. I've never really used ebay, but I'll look on there also.

A 4280 gph pump is too small for your pond (4500+ gallons).
Being frugal is admirable, but don't let thrift control what is ultimately the best choice for your pond. You need at least a 6750 gph pump with comparably sized bio-filtration. Anything less than this will result in problems at some future date.

 

[sissy]

I have never had a problem with my ponds in 11 years except for a dog and moles .I have the 60 gallon filter and the crate in the other filter to pic up fine stuff .I don't spend money on all the fancy stuff they keep telling me I need .No skimmer and no bottom drain ,no chemicals except in my stock tanks .All the water from my 2 pumps does not go into my filters ,there is a spitter also in the waterfall that spits water up and there is a ball valve on it also .The 2400 gph one goes to the crate and a ball valve tied under the bridge .If she does get the 4280 gph she could always invest money in another smaller pump and have 2 running come spring when she has more money ( 2 pumps are always better than 1 ) .I have even had Eric the ponddigger fascinated with my pond .He even asked me about the splitters I have in there with the ball valves because he said there movement would be the same as his tpr's that he puts in ponds .Maybe it will not work for every one but it is worth the try .

 

[Chrissy]

A 4280 gph pump is too small for your pond (4500+ gallons).
Being frugal is admirable, but don't let thrift control what is ultimately the best choice for your pond. You need at least a 6750 gph pump with comparably sized bio-filtration. Anything less than this will result in problems at some future date.

Ok. I will keep looking. I'm trying to decide between submersible or exterior pumps also. Which do you use, Meyer?

 

[sissy]

remember if you do decide to go external that you want a self priming and that a lot of them do not come with a leaf basket and that is extra and that you will need to take it in and store it come winter .I did not go with external even after i was offered one brand new from a pond place that closed here .He wanted 100 dollars but it did not have a leaf basket and box did not say on it any where that it was self priming .plus read box and it said it used 500 watts .That sealed the no deal for me .

 

[Meyer Jordan]

Ok. I will keep looking. I'm trying to decide between submersible or exterior pumps also. Which do you use, Meyer?

All of my installations have a skimmer so I use submersibles. I do service other ponds that are more on the order of dedicated Koi ponds that have external pumps. It really depends on the design and configuration of each individual pond as to which type is best.
Submersible would be indicated if you are planning on installing a skimmer (which I highly recommend). If not, external would be a overall better choice for ease of maintenance.

 

[Chrissy]

All of my installations have a skimmer so I use submersibles. I do service other ponds that are more on the order of dedicated Koi ponds that have external pumps. It really depends on the design and configuration of each individual pond as to which type is best.
Submersible would be indicated if you are planning on installing a skimmer (which I highly recommend). If not, external would be a overall better choice for ease of maintenance.

good to know. Thank you! It looks like we may head towards an external at this point.

 

[Chrissy]

remember if you do decide to go external that you want a self priming and that a lot of them do not come with a leaf basket and that is extra and that you will need to take it in and store it come winter .I did not go with external even after i was offered one brand new from a pond place that closed here .He wanted 100 dollars but it did not have a leaf basket and box did not say on it any where that it was self priming .plus read box and it said it used 500 watts .That sealed the no deal for me .

I have been comparing the external pump options and I see some with and without the leaf basket. My current pump has one so I definitely see the benefit and need of having one! I think I will stick with the pressurized diy filtration that I have come across made from the heavy duty trash can. I think it will work well for my pond. If not, it isn't that expensive and I can consider other options in the spring. At this moment, my priority is figuring out this darn pump and what will work best. Fall weather is approaching fast and I feel like my time is super limited to get this worked out. I'm feeling the pressure! lol I like the specs and reviews I have read on the Laguna, Sissy. It surprises me that the internal pumps even work. They look so darn small. Here is a question for you as I know you are using the crate. Do you have any issue with the submersible pumping water upward to your filtration? Maybe a silly question, but I just want to be sure before I make a purchase.

 

[addy1]

I use a external pump and have a skimmer, all depends on how you do your plumbing. My one pump pulls from the skimmer and the pond.

Submersibles are made to pump up to your filter, ow they would not work for any pond.

 

[sissy]

Never had a problem with them pumping upward .I have made y pond so leaks can happen from the hoses or filters .They are all contained inside the pond and inside liners .Now for this liner that is still a big question .As a matter of fact that is the main reason I have water going to spitters because it was to much water going into the filters .I have 2 ball valves and 1 spitter in the waterfall pond .I do have videos on you tube of them working

 

[Brandy]

I actually used webbs store to look at energy costs for all brands of pumps and head heights .It is a good source to compare pumps with my pumps on ebay they were at a higher price but i made a best offer and they took it free shipping and no taxes

I use webbs for a number of things-if you sign up for their email many times you get 15% off plus free shipping- I just bought my Artesian pro pump and Ultima ii 6000 filer from them. If you have any questions about products, Joe has always been helpful