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Oh and it takes time for the hive to realize they are queenless
 

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Well at least you are down there in the warmth for awhile and guess that will help w/breeding and making another queen if they need one. If back home they would not make it w/o an already queen bee right? Will you be able to take a look in the new box in a certain spot to see if the queen is there at some point? If she survived and is in there somewhere will they move her to a certain spot to care for her and breed?
 

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If she survived and is in there somewhere will they move her to a certain spot to care for her and breed?

What they do, if the queen is there, the nurse bees will cluster around her. She is guided by the bees as to where to go and lay. A lot of times she just goes to where there is empty comb.
Without a queen making new bees the current ones will just die off in 30 or so days, the hive will slowly empty. With a queen there will be a continuous replacement of the bees dieing off.
If no queen, they will take a few of those eggs , if under 3 days old, and feed them royal jelly to create a new queen. One reason we were happy to find eggs. They looked like newly laid eggs, thought of it after the fact to take a picture. We had cut off a tiny piece of comb had it in the house, so eggs might be dead, but the comb we cut it off is in the hive a large piece. So there were eggs put right back into the hive without them getting chilled.
We stuck that tiny piece back in just in case.

IF the hive settles quickly the nurse bees will take care of the eggs. The nurse bees don't fly, one reason we had to scoop up that cluster of bees, the large one, they were probably nurse bees, might have had the queen in the cluster, and workers. The second day cluster was smaller, most likely all workers as the only thing left in the laundry room were flying bees.

By the look of the hive, I really think it was a new swarm or a newly replaced queen. There were no uncapped larvae. Usually if the a queen has been in the hive working you see eggs, uncapped larvae and capped larvae a combo of all. I am not sure we saw brood. There was a bunch of empty cells.

So if they have to make a new queen, down here it is warm enough for her to fly to breed,
If back home they would not make it w/o an already queen bee right?

in maryland no way it would happen this time of year. It has to be 55 plus for three days in a row for them to breed.
So if a new queen is being made it will take 45 days for new bees to start to hatch out, We might have enough time for the hive to grow and stabilize enough to survive. Esp with us feeding feeding feeding.

Will you be able to take a look in the new box in a certain spot to see if the queen is there at some point?
We will go into the hive in 3 weeks or so, see if we see eggs, uncapped larvae, capped larvae that will tell us if we have a queen. They are really hard to spot, at least for us. If you buy a queen they put a dot of paint on their back to help in spotting them, even with the dot we had trouble see the queen.

this was a tiny hive in maryland, one of the few times we found the queen, you can imagine trying to find her in a wall, with three layers of comb laying on each other hanging off a 2x4.

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Boy you sure know how to relax on vacation! Thank you for the video, it is fascinating. I hope the queen is alive and well and your hive survives. What a crazy ordeal but like j.w said, so glad you guys were there to remove and not exterminate!
 

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The queen has a big butt :LOL:
I can see how you would have trouble seeing her amongst all those bees.
Glad this happened down there in Florida where there is some hope for them to survive this ordeal.
 

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We could have paid someone 500 bucks to come and do the removal, no dry wall repair and they would keep the bees. So we figured why not try to do it ourselves.

Well you all know how men are.............you ladies do.................... I told honey to check the next stud over, did he? NOPE so today we went over to replace the dry wall, another ball of bees gathered. As he gathered them up more crawled out from behind a 2x4 i.e. the next stud over. So we pulled the dry wall and guess what? another 3-4000 bees. Just a tiny piece of comb built. This is between two studs, about 4 inches apart

Here are the bees, utube to come in a little, it takes around 2 hours to upload.
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Then we pulled the drywall next to that and....................you got it..................more

We got them into plastic bags pulled the hive top off and dumped them in. It was neat to see the bees already in the hive were working away, the 7000 or so bees we tossed in, today, seemed happy they stayed in the hive. There is a bunch flying around confused, but by tomorrow they should be settled in the hive.

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I just walked over to peek at the bees. All is calm. The bees are in the hive, except a few stragglers. None in the laundry room, One of the girls stung my knee, it managed to crawl up the leg of my bee suit. Luckily I brought the unkers, put that stuff on, no swelling if put on right away, pain goes away. I did not get it on right away, so a tiny bit of swelling, this time.

We will move the hive another foot tomorrow. You can move then a foot to 18 inches every day to get them to a different location. Or 3 miles. We want to move them another 6 feet or so, place them near the plants at the end of the car port
 

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Wowser more bees! They are making you earn your money.................what money right,lol! Sorry one gave you a boo boo and glad you brought the meds to help it heal. I'll watch the video tomorrow cuz I'm dead beat right now from mowing the lawn in the cold and starving for my slow cooking chicken and noodle dinner :)
Then I will become a couch potato and watch some boob tube w/ the man.
Good job Queen bee addy and Honey bee Mark...........you scored big time again and lets hope there is no more!
 

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They are making you earn your money.................what money right,lol!
That first tsp of honey will be pretty darn pricy.

Bee collection number 2

What is so weird, scary weird, is to feel all those bees buzzing in your hands.

 

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This is the last clump of bees, we used a bag and a little trash can to collect them.

 

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We find this fascinating. We collected the ball of bees, as many as we could when Mark went to pull the small piece of comb a bunch of bees fell down. As you watch they calmly crawl back up the wall.


You can't see real well, in the other video, when we collected them in the bag they let us just push them down with that piece of plastic, sticking together like good buddies.

A lot of time we have to shake bees off frames, off equipment, we usually put a ramp like a piece of wood in front of the hive, The bees will calmly crawl back into the hive.
 

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