Not sure, JW. I will watch and buy more fantails this year again. I have red/white ones, and white/red ones, and bluish background (instead of white) with black and red spots. Then I have that really large male Shubunkin from POnd Kid that is very blue and has lots of red and black spots. Everyone that sees him loves him, I guess because he is different, so he stands out. I also got 3 Shubies from Wal-Mart a year ago December. One of them lost it's black, but the other two (yep, they are the more blue looking background color) kept their black. Not sure if it's just coincidence, or if the ones that are more blue looking keep the black better, I'll let you know if I get any babies this year. I've seen some of the little fantails that I got last fall and they are doing just fine. Couple of them are still very small, and others were larger and have grown some during the winter. Spot and Speck are also in there doing fine. I sure know what people mean when they say they have not seen their fish! OMG, I was afraid something came to get my fish, all of them were hiding. Then, close to dark went out there and they were all there, just came out of hiding. I wonder if something has spooked them. Usually I can see most of them hanging around. I sure hope a heron is not visiting my ponds while I'm at work!!! Koi are in deep water, have lots of "garages" to hide under, goldfish are in 3' of water, also several garages to hide under, so I think they should be fine.