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Message: [QUOTE="shane_sda, post: 52094, member: 2875"] Thanks rdk. My issue is that every year I wait til the water gets cold so I can net my goldfish to bring them inside. Same this year and all the goldies are safe and sound. Over the summer I bought 5 small koi, which have disappeared behind rocks so I can’t pull them out. Have not seen them in 5 days now. I have ordered a surface heater and am now looking for options on a bubbler for the winter. Draining my pond is a option, but a last resort as I would need to look behind lots of rocks. Thanks for your help. [/QUOTE]