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Message: [QUOTE="herzausstahl, post: 107591, member: 3540"] LOL I haven't checked this thread soon enough! So I'll be responding/asking questions to many at once. I thought about putting it on a rock or a crate of some kind, something not too invasive. thanks, I forgot from your previous posts that you are an active aquarist also thanks waterbug, its kinda funny cus I've run into your posts on other forums during my research and figured you might have tried what i was looking for and at the very least give me a different perspective on it. i did like the idea of clay over soil since that is what i have but have read that it takes awhile to settle. if i did a pump it would be to run a small waterfall that would trickle into the pond, not a raging torrent or anything. if i did fish it would be a very small load and either rosy red minnows or something local from a bait shop. i really don't want any ornamental fish so that they don't eat the other wildlife i am looking to attract with this pond. i did think about the mosquito dunks as i have begun reading more and as you say so many things will either rely on the larvae or take care of it, but i definitely would need them at first until it settled and i added at least minnow to keep them under control, the mosquito is often called the unofficial wisconsin state bird. and i have already seen how a lot of the natural ponders (a lot in england it looks like) strive for a balance with design and plants and accept seasonal algae blooms or dig out the excess algae and let the ponds naturalize on their own. a holistic approach is a good way to put it. i'm not sure though I can go as far as calling all the extra filters, skimmers, etc useless because it all depends on the type of pond you are creating. in the one i want to design, definitely not needed, but for those who are pushing the limits with a fishload, they come in handy, but that isn't to say a necessity in every pond. i know the usual argument you are referring too, that all ponds in nature have an influx of freshwater, but I know several around here that become stagnant in the middle of summer when the creeks dry up and we don't get rain for days on end and all the wildlife is doing just fine. JW, I bet that would look even cooler if you had it above ground. [/QUOTE]

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