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Message: [QUOTE="mtpond, post: 212338, member: 3935"] [QUOTE Civilian volunteers want to help but search and rescue were not allowing that but families were not believing they were doing a good enough job so civilians broke through the barriers and snuck through and are doing it anyways. The civilians are the ones finding the bodies now, not the paid search and rescue people. Family members are outraged. It is a mess :([/QUOTE] My daughter was dating a guy and a couple of his friends were up snowcatting somewhere they shouldn't of been because of the avalanche danger. Anyway they triggered an avalanche. One of them got buried and search and rescue wouldn't go in because of the avalanche danger. My daughters boyfriend along with other friends went in to look for him. They found him and he was still alive and it had been hours since he had been buried. They built a fire and took turns trying to warm him up with their body heat. He was one lucky guy that he had friends that cared. [/QUOTE]