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Message: [QUOTE="sissy, post: 163211, member: 2982"] only problem i see with that dave there are not many pond stores of any kind here that will give you the stuff you need and they will try to sell you everything under the sun also .I think his water looks pretty clear considering the work he has been doing .My other pond at the other house has only a 250 gallon stock tank and pond and fish are doing pretty good .Same filter system as the ones I have here lava rock and plants in the filter .They pond was not tended to for 4 years when I bought the property .So it looked bad and since there was no electric there there was no filter .I am guessing you have a bog like addy has and maybe all you need is what I put in and with the bog it should work .Plants are the best cleaners of all . [/QUOTE]