Week old pond Ph Spikes can I use lemon juice to lower?

.5.

Joined
Apr 22, 2009
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
I have an overproductive lemon tree and it seems safer than the pet store ph lowering solution (Koi eat oranges right?)

BTW I'm from Los angeles home of the hardest water in the country.

I have the ammonia at .05ppm, Ph at 7.6-7.8.
By the water meter reading while filling the pond is about 110 cf 3" deep 7X7 feet at the top with about a 60 degree slope to the bottom. Call the pond 800-100 gallons roughly.
 

koiguy1969

GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
10,587
Reaction score
6,409
Location
Michigan zone 5b
crushed oyster shell is a natural ph "locker" put some in a nylon stocking or two and locate it in an area that has constant water circulation. 7.6 is an adequate ph for fish. it will cost about $4.00 to get you set. and will last all season and then some.
 

.5.

Joined
Apr 22, 2009
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
But if the ph creeps into the 8 or higher can I use citrus juice to lower it?
I'm also noticing mosquito larvae hiding in the border rocks.
 

koiguy1969

GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
10,587
Reaction score
6,409
Location
Michigan zone 5b
you can go to any nursery, lowes or home depot and get some mosquitoe dunks, or your fish will feast on the larvae... is your filter running? they prefer to lay eggs in still water. i never heard of citrus juice to lower p.h, so this i cannot comment on. your safe now, so put in the crushed oyster shells and you should be fine. they are a great natural buffer
 
Joined
Jan 4, 2009
Messages
86
Reaction score
0
Location
Burbank, CA
Hi, which part of Los Angeles are you located?
I'm in Burbank, CA. and would love to see your pond for some inspiration, if you're okay with that.
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
500
Reaction score
2
Location
NorthEast, USA - Zone 6a
Does the oyster shell initially raise the pH? I was kind of shocked to find-out that mine is 8 out of the tap. I distinctly remember that the water report when I bought the house said 7.0. Of course, being a new pond it will probably be more of a low pH problem initially. FYI, you can buy crushed oyster shell as a chicken feed supplement also.
 
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Messages
543
Reaction score
180
Location
Winter Springs FL
As others have said, your pH is perfect. Lemon juice would be a terrible choice for lowering pH. It's loaded with organic materials that will rot and foul your water.
 

addy1

water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins
Moderator
Joined
Jun 23, 2010
Messages
44,905
Reaction score
29,889
Location
Frederick, Maryland
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
6b
Country
United States
Malak said:
Does the oyster shell initially raise the pH? I was kind of shocked to find-out that mine is 8 out of the tap. I distinctly remember that the water report when I bought the house said 7.0. Of course, being a new pond it will probably be more of a low pH problem initially. FYI, you can buy crushed oyster shell as a chicken feed supplement also.
My understanding is the oyster shells affect the hardness, and stabilize the ph, not really raising it. My water is a ph of 5-6 ish, Since I put in the crushed shells I have not had to do anything to keep a decent ph for the few lil fish.


Oyster Shells: they can only disolve in the presence of acid
 

DrDave

Innovator
Moderator
Joined
Aug 29, 2007
Messages
6,851
Reaction score
112
Location
Fallbrook, Ca USA
Is that well water that is coming out at 5-6 PH? Is there a way to tell what is chemical is in the water causing it to be that low?
 

fishin4cars

True friends just call me Larkin
Joined
Mar 23, 2011
Messages
5,195
Reaction score
1,601
Location
Hammond LA USA
Hardiness Zone
8a
shakaho said:
As others have said, your pH is perfect. Lemon juice would be a terrible choice for lowering pH. It's loaded with organic materials that will rot and foul your water.

Actually lemon Juice has citric acid, all natural. it will work for lowering PH, The problem with lemon juice is that the Citric acid is bio-degradable and the bio-filter will actually feed on the acid and use it at a high rate, without a stabilizer it's going to start fluctuating the PH greatly, that is bad for your fish. Also, what is it breaking down too?? If you don't know and you can't find a safe answer, best advice, DON'T USE IT! Stability in your PH is what is more important. A ph of 6.5-8.0 is actually not going to harm your fish, If it is to the outer extremes it can cause some issues with your bio filter and also can effect breeding to some extent but by far not keep anything from happening, they just may lay less, or produce more infertile eggs. but the fish themselves aren't going to be that affected, If the PH is going from 6.5-7.5 then back to 6.5 or vice verse, this will cause stress which could lead to possible parasite and bacteria outbreaks.
I get oyster shells from a local seafood restraunt that serves oysters on the half shell, I boil them for about 30 minutes, let them dry completely, then let them soak in a bucket of water and change the water completely out once a week until I do not read any ammonia and has a non-rotten smell. (This is to remove any extra left muscle tissue that may be left over) Crush about 3-4 gallons worth, rinse once more and then place them in the filter fall. Started using this method last year, The original bag I started with has probably lost about 1/4th of the original amount. PH stays within 7.4- 7.7 except after heavy rains which actually makes it climb to 7.8-7.9 for about 48-72 hours before slowly lowering. I've tested my rain water catch and 8.0-8.2 is fairly normal catch water PH.
 

addy1

water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins
Moderator
Joined
Jun 23, 2010
Messages
44,905
Reaction score
29,889
Location
Frederick, Maryland
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
6b
Country
United States
DrDave said:
Is that well water that is coming out at 5-6 PH? Is there a way to tell what is chemical is in the water causing it to be that low?
Our well is that low, we have not had it tested, our rain here is a low ph also. We have a lot of shale type rock, clay etc. Very rural area.
 

addy1

water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins
Moderator
Joined
Jun 23, 2010
Messages
44,905
Reaction score
29,889
Location
Frederick, Maryland
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
6b
Country
United States
I put 100 lbs in my pond, which is around 9-10 k gallons, the shells are in the bog right where the water flows over them. The hardness is slowly going up.
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Members online

No members online now.

Forum statistics

Threads
31,493
Messages
517,816
Members
13,698
Latest member
KristiMahe

Latest Threads

Top