Vacuumed my pond...

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So I finally vacuumed the bottom of my pond in the last few days. After the winter, the bottom was full of detritus. Had planned to do it for a long time but different things kept popping up and my back isn't so good anymore so I have to wait until my son is free.

We didn't manage to do a good job this time because it was late afternoon and I couldn't see well into the water and we'd left it late so plants were already growing and we were sucking some plants into the vacuum. I'd also installed a shower filter in a shallow part of the pond and that was blocking part of it. So between all that and my back pain, I figure we did about 50% of what I used to do. The next day when I looked, the parts that were cleaned best was OK, I could see the bottom pretty clearly but not too sure about the deeper parts.

I used a large Sears wet vac, which I have always done. My original thought was that I could always use this as a regular vacuum if I needed to but in all these years, I've only used it for the pond because it's so big.

I tried to remedy the poor vacuuming by adding some kind of sludge buster. It's supposed to contain bacteria which "eats" up the sludge at the bottom. I'd stored this in the garage over winter and when I brought it out some kind of bio-reaction had happened because the sealed bucket was all sucked in. I couldn't even turn the bucket lid and I had to drill a small hole to equalize the low pressure inside before I opened it.

The sludge buster was 1 inch long sticks like kitty litter or wood chips. I threw a cup of the stuff into the pond. The next morning the sticks had broken up into tiny pieces. Don't know how well this stuff will work. I'm supposed to use it every week and I might was well, since this stuff has to be used up fairly soon after opening.

I'd lost a lot of fish last year after my trip to Calif. That fall, I bought a bunch of feeders which grew a lot during the cold weather. They can now eat the medium sized pellets which they couldn't before.

Recently, I bought two batches of inexpensive fish to brighten up the pond. I'm no longer buying koi because they've mostly vanished without a trace. Not sure if the culprit is an opportunistic animal, neighbor or just water quality issues. I plan to address that last one by adding two permanent filters this year. We have no fence in the backyard and we going to build a more substantial netting frame over the pond. And lastly, the guy I bought my koi from is no longer in business.

A few weeks ago I bought 4-5 white/silver feeders. They seem to be doing well apart from not eating with the rest of the fish. I guess they are surviving on algae.

Today, I bought two Shubunkins despite vowing not to anymore. Last year, I bought 2 and then 2 more from Petco and all 4 disappeared without a trace. But today at the store I saw two who were just too pretty to pass on. And I also bought 4 light gold colored feeders.

Really looking forward to them growing and thriving.
 
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Sounds lke you need to put a motion camera on your pond John to see just who is snacking on your fish otherwise your hobby is going to end up a rather expensive reseraunt for fish preditors freeloading and not paying for their meals :LOL:
It would be most interesting to see just who this freeloader is dont you think my friend ;)

Dave :)
 

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Boy you have been a busy boy there John. Never have vacuumed my pond. Always have used a net to break my back. Then do some water in water out freshening up. Seems no matter what we do our ponds manage to pain us somehow or another but hey it's all worth it right?
I suppose if I netted more often it would be easier but alas I procrastinate or am I just lazy :rolleyes:

It's a good thing that I don't live too close to those pet stores too cuz w/ all those nice shubbies I'd have way too many fish. It's already getting close cuz the muck that builds up is amazing :vomit:
 

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With all that work you put in, sure hoping for your fish to thrive! And please take it easy so you can enjoy those fishies :)

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A few questions about your Shop Vac -- are you pumping the water straight out, or filtering, and adding it back to the pond? When I've used (or tried to use) ours (I think it's a Sears brand, as well), 1) the suction was so strong that it would have sucked up fish, 2) it was a PITA having to turn around and empty it every few minutes, and 3) I couldn't get the deeper parts without an extension, but the extension cut back on the suction.

About #2, they make an adapter that will fit the tank outflow so you can put PVC pipe on there (use a ball valve for when you're ready to empty the tank -- we use the bucket-method, though.....), but that still just uses up so much good pond water.......

My back is still in good shape (knock on wood), but I can tell when I'm doing something I shouldn't. And hubby has back issues, so there really does have to be an easier way.....
 

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Thanks for all the replies:
- I now have a motion sensor camera. I also have a wifi camera. I think I'll try that one first so I can see the pond from my computer.
- I have to use this attachment:
http://www.sears.com/generic-craftsman-wet-dry-vacuum-cleaner-wet/p-SPM6030821608?prdNo=10
and I run that over the bottom. If I use anything else, it will suck up rocks and stuff. But this attachment spreads out the suction and is too narrow to suck up rocks. You can see other attachments here:
http://www.sears.com/tools-wet-dry-vacs-wet-dry-vac-attachments/b-1200013443
- The Sears wet/dry also pumps out water. There's a hose attachment in the back and if you attach the hose when it's full, it will automatically expel the water.
- Now, all I do is to open up the discharge outlet at the bottom and let the water all run out. It takes about 7 mins to fill up the vac before I need to empty it.
- There is a better way. I think WB has suggested one before. And when I hired a professional guy, he had a gas powered pump that pumped into a sieve and then a hose straight into the drains.
 
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I've only used my pond vac twice since I built it, mostly for sucking up sand and gravel, my bottom drain catches pretty much everything else that settles to the bottom.
I started a thread about the building of my pond vac with a bunch of pictures, but all the links are broken now because they keep screwing around with the gallery in this forum.
https://www.gardenpondforum.com/threads/pool-pump-to-pond-vac-conversion.8850

John it sounds like you need a DVR, then you could have your surveillance cameras linked to the WWW and watch it anywhere. You'd also have the ability to watch your saved motion detection videos from any location as well.
 

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Follow up: I did my first vacuuming late in the afternoon and I couldn't really see into the pond. In the early morning I saw that some of the pond was still full of muck so I did it again on Saturday.

I vacuumed up about 6 netfuls more of muck and this time the fish weren't so scared of the big bad machine anymore. I think I'll try and do one more early in the morning next week. Problem is that I need direct sunlight into the pond to see the muck.
 

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Good for you John using that nice vac! I'm mucking up as we speak. Don't have a vacuum and sure would be nice if I did. But I just use the net and then the bucket w/ the quilt batting in it.
I set the one pot underneath on my plant shelf and then stuck the other pot w/ holes in it on top of the other and put a spare pump w/ a hose attached and now I need to take out the dirty batting and put in clean. It's getting there slowly.
Replaced the worn out netting on my long pole net w/ fiberglass screen door material. Works great!

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