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Message: [QUOTE="capewind, post: 153897, member: 4510"] That's great to hear. I have come to the conclusion that unless you drain a pond, dont assume all are missing. Both our main pond & the comet pond (bog in progress) are almost bare naked of plants, and you would think with the water being crystal clear, you can see all... Fish are magicians LOL... We have two young comets (Shadow and Pumpkin LOL) who rode the water fall back to the main pond (hubby wants the main pond to be goldfish free)... Since it started getting cold (fish move slower), I hunt for Shadow and Pumpkin constantly (I mentally count all fish to make sure no one is missing)... I keep going days and even a week or two, and can not find these two comets! Then out of no where, they make a showing again LOL. I dont have any problems at all locating the smallest koi out there, and a few are still pretty small (7-9"),,, Shadow and Pumpkin are not that much smaller, being in the 6-7" range. Sure, it could be reasonable to have a hard time finding Shadow, as in the water, its coloring is near black (dark brown with some gold edging), but Pumpkin is bright orange LOL. [/QUOTE]