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Message: [QUOTE="addy1, post: 397560, member: 2547"] I was out getting the lilies ready for winter, pulling, adding fertilizer, kitty litter and sinking. The water was crystal clear I noticed the lack of debris on the bottom. I have not cleaned the bottom of the pond in over 5 years. I think the amount of plants I have sucking nutrients out takes any plant matter that makes it into the pond and uses it up. I did not groom the lilies once this summer, so all the old buds, leaves etc ended up somewhere, not in the pond! There is nothing there. So if you don't want to mess around with cleaning the bottom of your pond, have lots of plants sucking up the nutrients and snails munching on the plants. At least that is my theory! This is the 5 foot deep area, you can see the spilled pea gravel, spilled years ago. The large black lumps are trap door snails. [ATTACH=full]116802[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]116805[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]116803[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]116804[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]