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Message: [QUOTE="tbendl, post: 237065, member: 6848"] I go back and forth on the fish. Although yesterday while working on the pond, I huge hawk swept in and tried to grab a bird. I am now worried that fish=hawks=my sweet kitty Calvin being abducted by those flying a-holes.... Twisty logic but you know, whatever... Here's a few more pictures, I'm starting the waterfall and winging it. Thanks j.w. I'm pretty happy with it so far. And Lisak1, I will check at the box stores. Here's a few updated pictures [/QUOTE]