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Message: [QUOTE="fishin4cars, post: 103656, member: 3097"] I get my first hand shot at driving a Bobcat loader this week. I'm going to do a little clearing in the back just to get the feel of things before I start digging. No time limit just the cost of the diesel fuel. And or repairs/???/ Going to be a few weeks before I can go get the new/used tractor. I have one lined up with the excavator, loader, post hole auger, and box blade with trailer but I'm waiting for the owner to sell the attachments I didn't want first. While I'm at it I get to visit his Koi ponds. He used the tractor for building his ponds and work building up the farm, now he just has to maintain and wants to downsize. For less than 60% of the cost of new, I figure every farm needs a tractor. Get to help out a fellow hobbyist, make a good deal, and see some new country. The walk behinds do good for small backyards, they get in easy without tearing up the yard to bad, they aren't real strong so you can't get rough and try to dig big chunks at a time. But I can tell you, at the end of the day your still going to be about as sore as when using the shovel, just not as many blisters. LOL It will twist and work you pretty good, but worth the money. [/QUOTE]