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Message: [QUOTE="koikeepr, post: 41950, member: 1810"] How will you position and move a submersible in a 20x15 foot pond so that it reaches all parts of the pond without getting in or rigging up something to push the pump around and bring it in to clean it? Also, you do know that it very specifically says in submersible manuals that you should not be pulling the thing in by the cord, etc. Also, in a 20 foot pond (which is basically what I have). i have two BD's that sit in the center of each 10 foot mark. That would mean TWO submersibles in place at the same time to do the same thing. So, now you have twice the wattage being consumed where I have two gravity fed BD's to a single pump which sits out of the water and a leaf trap to catch anything that might be headed toward the pump. Let's not assume that plumbing a 1500g pond and a 6000g one are the same. The mechanics of a sedan and a Mack truck are not the same and you wouldn't treat them as such. One is not better than the other, they are just different and one needs to consider the maintenance issues for a wide and long pond with a huge floor surface in a reasonable way so that maintenance is easier and you have a spotless floor. I sure as heck wouldn't want to be getting into a pond that large to vacuum it twice a season. I would just like for action21 to slow down, take a breath and think about his plan before buying a bunch of expensive equipment. He can go about it several ways, and an informed decision should be made based on having all the info at hand. Whichever he chooses at the end will be based on his personal preference for sure. [/QUOTE]

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