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Message: [QUOTE="jakkbauer, post: 303286, member: 8242"] Meyer maybe you should check my intro thread. I actually do try to educate my clients but many just don't care :) In many cases these ponds have no fish and are purely aesthetic in the back of some richy rich's house, so why would you walk away from that when there is nothing to destroy except their liner and concrete in their crappy little water feature? If they are paying you to do it just get the job done and move on to the next one. Not every person that has a water feature cares about the ecosystem it's just a simple fact. [/QUOTE]