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Message: [QUOTE="Mucky_Waters, post: 293597, member: 3859"] Agreed. My pond skimmer also serves as a mechanical pre-filter for one of my pump. Without it that pump would likely be getting plugged up fairly often. Of course there are also skimmers that have their whole pond filtrations and pumps built right into them and they rely on nothing else. But I must add that any pond I've ever seen in person without a skimmer, where there wasn't someone manually scooping up stuff off the surface of the pond all the time, always had a lot of stuff floating around on the surface or against the shoreline somewhere, be it bubbles, foam scum or leaves. And in the case of the stuff against the shoreline this often leads to extra algae growth in those areas. So I believe their greatest value is one of cosmetics. Of course I'm looking at it from the point of view of having another pond contraption (a bottom drain) that would eventually catch leaves and stuff after they sink. without a bottom drain or skimmer you stand to get a lot more accumulated debris in your pond that could eventually greatly increase your DOC levels. [/QUOTE]