Planting dahlias next to liner pond

[talal101]

I want to plant a few dahlias edged around my pond but I'm worried they may puncture a hole in the liner, is that possible? And how close should an edging plant be planted to the edge of the pond to limit the amount of leaves falling in the pond but not so far?
Thanks

 

[fishin4cars]

Dahlias aren't going to hurt your liner. Trees are the biggest worry on that, The next plants I would be even closely worried about are Cannas and Iris's. Those grow large root systems that might push the liner but I seriously doubt they would puncture a hole in one. Most plants can be planted right next to the liner and like you stated main thing is if they drop leaves those you might want to move back a little from the edge of the pond. If you read in the forum there are several suggestions for plants that work right next to the pond, creeping jenny, hyssops, creeping fig, wire vine, Even parrots feather all can be planted right along the edge and allowed to grow over the edge or even into the pond.

 

[addy1]

The only thing that plants ever did, to me, was send their roots up over the liner and into the pond searching out the water (arizona pond) never went through the liner. I had 3 decent size trees near the pond. (they don't drop leaves there, just a few now and then)

 

[j.w]

Fishin, so are you saying Parrots Feather can be planted on the outside of the pond in soil and what if soil dries out, I mean does it have to be kept really wet? Would it freeze and die in the ground if freezing temps appeared? Just wondering cuz I would try that if it will work

 

[addy1]

Submersed leaves are limp and often appear to be decaying but the stems are very robust. Adventitious roots form at the nodes. When attached to a bank, parrotfeather stems can extend out several yards over the water surface. Flowers are inconspicuous and are borne in the axils of the emergent leaves. The white flowers are approximately 1/16 inch long.

It can grow out of the bank, but the branches need to be in the water to live.

In some areas, like western Washington, parrotfeather may maintain considerable winter biomass. Because parrotfeather lacks tubers, turions, and winter buds, rhizomes serve all those functions. parrotfeather does not store phosphorus or carbon in its rhizomes.

 

[addy1]

Too late to edit lol, jw I am attaching some to the banks to keep it in once place. Also in my stream and small ponds it gets washed down the streams and causes blockages.

That stuff is tough, I pulled some dead stems out mid winter, then read they look like that, (they were on the bank in the sun dry for months) well stuck them back in the water and they are growing.

 

[j.w]

Well heck yes I'm gonna try some then myself in the soil right beside the pond and let them go w/ the flow into the water addy :bowdown:

 

[fishin4cars]

My favorite place it to stick the end of a long runner under a rock near water movement. Allow the new growth to hang directly in the water. last year we had two growths that got about 3' around. this year I have it growing in entirely two different spots and thes took off from pieces they koi broke off guring the year.

 

[talal101]

wow sorry addy and everyone i just seen that you replied to the post, thats good new to hear though, i can't wait to start on my outdoor gardening im just itching to get started

 

[addy1]

Lol talal, busy time of year, getting plants in, pond running ..............

 

[talal101]

Yup, today I filled up the old pond and going to transfer to the new pond when it's done

 

[taherrmann4]

Anyone tried growing random perennials on the rocks that go into your ponds? I have a wild black eyed susan that is growing by my waterfall, it grew there on its own last year and survived the winter as it is coming back this year. It's on a rock that gets some constant water from my waterfall but no dirt at all. This gave me an idea to maybe try some other perennail on a rock that is close to the water surface so the roots can go into the water. Anyone else try any other plants besides elephant ears?

 

[addy1]

I try all sorts of plants, they either make it or don't Some will really surprise you by making it and looking very nice.

 

[fishin4cars]

Don't be afraid at all to try and gather any native flower seeds. If it blooms wild in your area seeds are usually easy to get. you will be surprised what all will just take off natural around your pond if you just give it a start and since you know it grows wild you can expect it to continue coming back.
One of our local plants is the LA. Iris, I have collected seven different colors and they grow all over the yard. So cool when they all bloom and none cost me a dime, just pulled off the side of the road and grabbed few to get a start. Another plant we really enjoy in the yard is a native hibiscus, huge white flower that turns pink after the first day. they hate the cold but for us they grow like weeds.

 

[Fishylove]

I got a start of wild hibiscus from a marsh, havent gave a permanent home yet, but they get rather big dont they?