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Message: [QUOTE="Lisak1, post: 447923, member: 6145"] And on a related note - to suggest we haven't flattened the curve is untrue. Here's Chicago - the curve has been flat for months. But instead of focusing on deaths and hospitalizations, they have shifted to a new metric and want us to focus on positivity rates, which - if that's your chosen metric - then let's assume the rising rate of cases has bottomed out the death rate. I'll go with that. More people who've been exposed, lower percentage of hospitalizations and reduced death rate - sounds like a win-win-win to me. [ATTACH type="full"]135045[/ATTACH] Here's the US - "cases" rising. Death rate not following the spikes. All good news - but you'll never hear it if you don't go looking for it yourself. [ATTACH type="full"]135046[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]