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Message: [QUOTE="poconojoe, post: 486427, member: 1822"] I'm not sure if this site sells EPDM, but their prices for HDRPE were great when I did my bog two years ago, plus it was free shipping! It's American Talapia. My pond is 45 mil EPDM, but I used HDRPE for my bog. Make sure it has the "R" for reinforced, not the plain HDPE. HDRPE is much stiffer than EPDM, but installing it wasn't too bad. I folded the corners like gift wrapping. HDRPE in most cases doesn't need an underlayment. I guess it depends on how rocky your soil is. [/QUOTE]