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Message: [QUOTE="Craig58, post: 141346, member: 4545"] Yes.. but as I mentioned in another thread, for serious Koi collectors, $5000 to $10000 or more for filtration is nothing. Even for low end Koi at $500 to $1000 apiece and a 20 fish tank, (which is a low numbr of fish), you are talking anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 in fish. So lets say they spend $10,000 on filtration. They spend 1$ on filtration for every 1$ of fish. On the upper end of fish value it is .50 per $1 of fish. Compare that to the average backyard pond. 20 mixed Koi and goldfish. Average value of fish $5-$10, so maybe $200.00 in fish. Buy a pump, and UV and you are looking probably at a minimum of about $500.00 in filtration at least. That means the back yard ponder is spending at least $2.00 per $1.00 of fish. Twice as much! Who's actually spending more? :razz: Just thought I'd throw a different perspective to it! :laugh: Craig [/QUOTE]