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Message: [QUOTE="Marion777, post: 529279, member: 21708"] good points! In Utah it freezes hard, even at 3 ft deep. I lay a 2x4 across the top in winter, then tie a horse watering trough de-icer (same as I use for the horses water trough in winter) the cord onto the middle of the 2x4, it & it keeps most of it from freezing. Works great. My pond has a thick liner, that’s why I tie the de-icer so the coils don’t touch & possibly melt the liner. I keep the waterfall running all winter as well & it works out great [/QUOTE]