I need help choosing a pond liner?

[topofthehill1]

I thought I order my pond liner online. I thought it had a pretty long warranty. However I cannot find any of that information and really don't remember where it was purchased.

This winter it sprung a pretty good leak and I was lucky to notice it because the pond water covered up. I made it through the winter by adding water. It now has three patches but it felt pretty brittle when I was patching it.

I want to order another but I need some brand recommendation that hopefully last longer than 3 years. Luckily its not that big but its big enough that I am very annoyed. Around 15*20'.

 

[Meyer Jordan]

No question....45 mil Fish-Safe EPDM.

 

[JBtheExplorer]

I don't really think brand matters. Look for 45 mil, EPDM liner.

 

[sissy]

Yep all the same 45 mil is 45 mil just look for the best price and hopefully low cost or no cost shipping .I got mine from dr foster and smith with free shipping .it was 20 by 25 but actually was bigger when i layed it out on the lawn to soften .They are heavy that is for sure

 

[glabie]

No question....45 mil Fish-Safe EPDM.

What does epdm stand for

 

[Meyer Jordan]

What does epdm stand for

ethylene propylene diene monomer

 

[sissy]

I had no help with mine but i suggest you look for help as it is hard to do it by your self .

 

[topofthehill1]

Thanks I had some help last time. It was my second one but it still ended up with a lot of folds but they seem almost unavoidable depending on the shape of your pond. All three holes were in flat areas and shaped like the letter X.

In my mind I want to say I ordered the 45mil one. But I can't find that information. I guess its possible I just picked one up at the hardware store. It also had a layer of carpet behind it. I'm glad the patches are holding I don't know how people handle this in an urgent situation. I already felt ridiculous trudging through the snow with a garden hose from the basement all winter.

 

[sissy]

I went through it last march when moles chewed through my liner and had 1 day to pull old liner and dig pond bigger and get new liner in before snow hit the next day .Not fun dragging hose out to fill the pond everyday .Mine started leaking in Feb. .aggie and bert were not happy .rectangle ponds are much easier only folds in the corners .I finished it in 3 weeks and had to slide the bridge back over

 

[topofthehill1]

Thanks for the photos. My pond is actually a similar shape and proportions. I would post photos but I just got home from jury duty so my brain is a little tired. I think my leak happened in March but I don't remember exactly. I don't know what is to blame for the holes but when it was cold it did feel brittle to me then. I guess moles are a possibility. I actually have a strange amount of ants but I don't know if thats possible. It was far too cold to work on it then. The only positive is I finally get to dig that extra foot of depth. I might make a couple of other changes.

Do you have a bottom drain because I am contemplating putting one in?

 

[Meyer Jordan]

Ants have been known to chew holes in 45 mil EPDM, but only where there is no geotextile underlayment.

 

[sissy]

I don't have a bottom drain or a skimmer .Bottom drain scares me .I have heard bad and good about them .Plus cutting a hole in a liner I paid money for and something going wrong scares me