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Message: [QUOTE="Huy Truong, post: 379659, member: 10385"] The underlay comes with the liner. So I've opted to go for a shallow gravel/pebble substrate on the bottom and am now looking into pond plants. All the information I could find was about planting the plants in containers and setting them in the water. Is there any way to just plant them in the pond, maybe letting it root in gravel and a little sand? Is the planting pot my only choice? How can I get the plants to grow in the soil around the pond, and for floating and submerged plants to grow in the gravel? I'm fine with having to use a planter for marginal plants, but I was wondering if for all other plants it was possible to plant them, or if there was any way to make the pots look more natural. I know everyone says sand is bad, but I also want the pond to look natural, so is it possible to put gravel and sand in the pond for plants to also naturally grow? I'm just wondering. Thanks so much, I just want to see if I can get the plants, sand, and gravel to be as natural as possible. [/QUOTE]