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Message: [QUOTE="addy1, post: 103088, member: 2547"] Make it bigger! you have the liner size............lol I made steps similar to what waterbug demo's mine were made to cover the dirt walls I ended up with due to our slope. I dug them with a back slant away from the stream and pond. Some of the shelves are out of water, i.e. just dug into dirt, upside of the stream and pond, some are under liner, the ponds in the stream. The shelves were anywhere from 8 - 15 inches, dependent on the size of rock I was using. So far the shelves have not crumbled, the rocks are still sitting where I put them. I did have one wash out spot, a mini stream came down the hill during a real bad storm, fixed that with some back sloping of the land to stop the water flow. If you have a slight back slant to your shelf, it helps keep the pot stable less chance of it sliding off the shelf into the pond. The pots I use are oil pans, low profile wide bottom. Some are the black plastic pots you get with plants bought at home depot etc., the ones that are short and wide. Have enough of your liner hanging over the top of the pond so there is excess to allow for settling, shifting working the shelves. Even after it is done settling, I don't cut my liner, I just tuck it under in case I decide to change something, which seems to happen quite often. While my pond was filling I walked the liner, pushing it into the corners, onto the shelf, then letting the water do the rest of the forming. Work the creases with your feet start while the water is going in. [/QUOTE]

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