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Message: [QUOTE="James5, post: 120235, member: 4331"] [b]Collar:[/b] Hadn't thought of that- thanks for bringing it up. Would it work just as well to use cinder block and mortar in, maybe two rows high, completely around the site? [b]Waterfall foundation[/b]: Excellent point and I have actually though of that, Last year when I did the inital pond I took a big rubbermaid container and filled it with concrete to be the base for the waterfall. Since my new one is going to a bit taller I planned on stacking and mortaring in some cinder block on top of that and then surrounding with dirt and whatnot. [b]Koi:[/b] I want the koi as pets and as a landscape feature. I'm actually fairly proficient in koi knowledge. I've read several books on them and for years have bought them little and had them in aquariums until they were too large, which I then gave them away to people with ponds. This is why I'm trying my best to get the best way possible to handle their waste in my pond. When you end up with four or five koi that are between 9 and 11 inches big in a 50 gallon tank you really have to be on top of the water filtration. For my koi I run two filters rated for 50g tanks because, as you well know, koi are pooping machines. And you bring up great points about the garage and building codes. Certainly going to have to look into that. In two weeks I have a five day weekend off from work and planned on using that time to put in the underlayer, liner and rocks. I orginally just came here for a few answers to questions and what have you. But now I've realized that I'm going to have to do much more and the porject timeline is going to be moved back. Fine by me because I would rather do it right than cut corners to get it done and have problems later. Also I decided to go with mortaring in a rocky bottom such as you have on your page and also making my own rocks. Be a fun activity for the son to help me with. One last thing, is a two-tier plan for the pond a bad idea? Should it all be the same level? Oh, and I do plan on having plants but I plan on rocking off a shallow shelf for those because of the koi vs plants issue. [/QUOTE]

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