HAPPY 18 mo old Pond, with BABIES

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Hello, all,

I will start by apologizing for all of the wrong terminology I will use, dumb questions I will ask, and prideful statements I will make.

We purchased a home with an "in need of work" above ground pond, appx 35' long, 5' wide, and 4' deep. My husband began cleaning and patching, until last spring it was ready to go. Water is sucked into pipe in ground along bottom of pond, to a pump, where it burbles up through a large filtration area with many feet of gravel,. and then over a little dam back in as clean water.

On the other end, a Dayton jet pump pulls water out, up several feet, across a hill via 2" pipe, and down a rock wall with three levels of waterfall.

Last year the filtration side began growing the green webby algae, and I read that as long as you do not allow it to take over you are good. The main pond had none, and the bottom was covered with all types of hiding places I had build for them, to escape the eyes of all types of countryside birds and beasts.

We began with two 4" koi, then a week later, 4 more, etc., until at one point in the late spring there were close to 50 koi and shubunkin. The water is from our well, which is a little hard and alkaline, but consistently the ph stays around 6.5, and there has never been a trace of nitrites, nitrates, or ammonia. The frogs wanted to leave 10 billion babies in the pond last year, and we said, NO. The pond froze at one point the first winter (2013) but everyone is fine. I rarely lose a fish, and when I do, it is just random.

As summer ended in 2013, the algae was creeping into the main pond, but the water was fine. Then my husband passed away suddenly, and I sort of told all of the animals, you need to survive the winter, then we can talk. All fall and winter, I would go to the pond, and barely see an orange flash, which is not easy for 50 fish, but I soon realized they were nestled in the algae.

In spring, my 4" koi had grown a bit, closer to 16", the 2-3" shubunks were not 7-8" and my ponds was full of babies..
The filtration end has tons of wildlife growing, including many 5-6 different varieties of nymphs, bees, while the main pond includes these plus worms, skaters, etc. Happy pond.

My concerns are many, mostly that I do nothing to the water, add no ANYTHING, and now I have some lumpy fish. Also, since I am going only by instinct, who knows if I am the worst pond owner ever.
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welcome and just sounds like you have a balanced pond ,do you test the water
 
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Oh thank you for the reply.. because the part I did ot put in was a problems, but I figured I will fix that and go back to Happy Pond.

I test water often, and have NEVER (even when the tads went crazy) had any trace of Nitrites, Nitrates, Ammonia. My pH averages 6.5, has gone as low as 6.2 or as high as 6.8. The two hardness tests/alkaline are very high, it is well water, but I do nothing to address this.

In a pond so large, and with so many fish, to lose one fish every 5-6 months seems minimal, but I have begun to notice a plethora of bumpys on some of the fish. Keep in mind, one for example, with a black dot that recently appeared, is my largest fish, having gone from 4" to 18" since 3/2013. So to say he is sick, sounds dumb.

I took pictures. I do not quarantine, I know, I know.. and as far as water replacement, because of a lot of loss on the waterfall hill, the temp (high desert), and leaks, I keep a constant stream on, just enough to keep it topped, but not running over.

The first batch of babies, there are 5 of them, are about 3 inches. The smallest are the tiny yellow green head, and tiny body, with several stages in between, the avg being about 1-1/2 in

PICTURE ONE (ASH, The white/blue in the middle is fine, there is nothing on her back, it is a reflection from above. Howeverm the middle guy swimming to the right is lumpy.. very lumpy

I have tried to get him from diff angles, as you will see below, but it seems I need to try again in the morning.
None of my fish appear to be distressed. Not a lot of flashing, they occasionally jump when I feed them at night (very structured fish, when my car lights swing over the pond each evening they line up and wait for me)
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Hello! And welcome to our forum! Is the bumpy fish in the center of the last large picture? If so it looks almost like he has had skin or scales sliced off? I have a goldfish that came out of winter with a "chunk" if you will taken out of his side, probably from a rock or something. I caught him and put organic coconut oil on it and it healed nicely, but the spot is still white.
Very pretty pond, I like how the bog spills over back into the pond.
 
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Hi! Thank you for writing. NO, I thing you are looking at Ash, Believe it or not it is just reflection and water distortion
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The worrisome fish looks like he/she is packing pea sized marbles under its skin, like it had mumps

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Yes, I just reviewed the pictures. It is the middle fish, but no, the water distortion is giving you the wrong view. If I could have named him now instead of when I first got him, his name would be lumpy. Another looks like pimples
 

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Can't help you w/ the koi as I only have goldfish but the bumpy things don't sound good. You do have a nice large pond and lots of lovely koi. Hope you can get help for them w/ info here. You might want to start a new thread in illness and disease as this would catch more attention for your problem.
 
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Thank you all. You are the nicest bunch of people.. But of course, look where we are writing from. Anyone who "gets" the power of a garden pond is welcome to come enjoy mine anytime.

I will take the advice to post in a sick fish room. I admit to being frightened. I listened to the newbie video, listing all of the mistakes newbies make.

I was surprisingly ok! I think if I QT new fish I would have been close to perfect.
 
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Hi. Nice looking pond. Can you give us its dimensions or how many gallons it contains? Sorry to hear about your husband....

I will say this... one thing I notice in a ll the pictures is that the fish have somewhat clamped fins. This can be a sign of distress. How old are your water test kits?

The pond does look very heavily stocked....
 
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Hi. First, it looks heavily stocked because I took the picture when they were eating.
They are less that 50 fish in a pond 35' long, 5' across, and 3-4' +/- deep
I'm trying to give your a visual idea.. having trouble uploading.

Checked water.
0 ammonia
0 nitrates
0 nitrites
Ph 7.7
Kh 240
Gh 180
 

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Some of the first photos I posted of the fish may have been from the winter.

I'm really worried. Some have swollen eyes. I'm taking pictures of them all together do you can get visual of the whole herd. And they are 16mp, so zoom in.
Also, I misstated the normal ph.. It generally is 7.0-7.8
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